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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: XML plan files not included in distributions
Date Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:00:16 GMT
I know its not easy, but its something I think is important to have at
some point.  It would be nice to know the current state of Geronimo and
have it spit out the configuration or be able to view it.  There are
many areas where this would be very useful.  So maybe one day? ;-)

My .02, I would be careful to include the current plans in the or through the console without some sort of disclaimer that
says they are the original plans and are not the current state.  What do
you think?


Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Well, I wasn't going to go that far.  Generally speaking, we can't
> easily reconstruct a plan from a set of GBeans (particularly for plans
> that use abbreviated XML syntax like for CSS/TSS or login modules). 
> I'd prefer to start with "retrieve original deployment plan" and get
> that in there, and then if we want to we can think about stuff like
> you're describing.  (After all, any plan we provided in docs/ wouldn't
> match the current state of the configuration either...)
> Thanks,
>     Aaron
> On 2/1/06, Jeff Genender <> wrote:
>> Aaron, yes...that is a great idea.
>> But then I think we get into opening up the can of worms about the plan
>> files in the matching what is actually running in Geronimo.
>>  It would be great to have something that can "rebuild" a plan from the
>> running configuration, so you can see an accurate snapshot.  I would
>> love to jump on this, but my plate is really full right now...
>> Any takers?  Otherwise I may be able to get to it in a couple of weeks.
>> In the mean time, would anyone mind if we did bundle the plan files
>> somewhere in G for reference?
>> Jeff
>> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>> Though personally, I think I'd rather store them in the config store
>>> and have an easy routine to get them out of there (using a JSR-77 call
>>> like the one that gets the J2EE deployment descriptor)...  Some day, I
>>> guess.
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Aaron
>>> On 2/1/06, Jeff Genender <> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I would really like to see the original plans in the doc for
>>>> reference.  I think it will be helpful and good reference for those
>>>> people who need to override Gbeans in the config.xml.
>>>> Jeff
>>>> Bruce Snyder wrote:
>>>>> On 1/31/06, John Sisson <> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there a reason why we no longer ship the XML plan files in the
>>>>>> distributions? In the M5 release (when we were using modules/assembly)
>>>>>> we included them in the geronimo\doc\plan directory.
>>>>>> I haven't been able to find a JIRA for this, but seem to remember
>>>>>> someone discussing it recently.
>>>>> I just discovered this the other day and as far as I can tell, it was
>>>>> just not considered before shipping 1.0. Call it an oversight. But
>>>>> there's no time like the present for fixing it.
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>> --
>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>>>>> );'
>>>>> Apache Geronimo (
>>>>> Castor (

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