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From Rob Davies <>
Subject Re: business process engine source donation
Date Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:07:28 GMT
Hi Sanjiva,

I sent the email 3 times (I think) - I'm having problems seeing email  
from gmail - so it didn't look like it was getting through - so  
apologies foe all my luv :)

ServiceMix is an ESB - which just happens to be based around a JBI  
Container.  Although the market definition is loose and fast for an  
ESB, there is growing consensus that ESB's require a business process  
engine. If you couple this with JBI being a good container for BPEL -  
then  ServiceMix seems the obvious place for this donation to go if  

If you've looked at the proposed donated code, this BPEL engine is  
complete, I can't see any sense in combining it with something else ?



On 2 Feb 2006, at 12:52, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

> Wow what a love fest ;-).
> Sorry to be a PITA but can someone explain to me the connection  
> between
> a JBI impl and a BPEL engine?? Why does it make sense for this to  
> become
> a part of ServiceMix? In fact, what's the relationship to Geronimo at
> all? Can someone indicate the coupling points?
> Also, Geir, what's happening with the other incubating BPEL project
> Agila? Why would this not fit better within that project, just as
> Twister was made to become part of that?
> Sanjiva.
> On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:02 +0000, Rob Davies wrote:
>> Hi Cory,
>> just been walking through the code - looks very well put together -
>> this will really enhance Apache ServiceMix - so I hope will quickly
>> be accepted!
>> cheers,
>> Rob
>> On 1 Feb 2006, at 19:20, cory wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> The ServiceMix project provides a good JBI platform but its  
>>> currently
>>> lacking a service orchestration engine. We have a Business Process
>>> Engine
>>> that we'd like to donate to the ServiceMix project. It handles
>>> orchestration of message exchanges along with support for open
>>> standards like BPEL 1.1 and is easy to integrate into ServiceMix.
>>> You can
>>> review the code here at:
>>> The code is currently licensed under a Sybase evaluation license but
>>> we are happy to supply an Apache licensed version assuming the  
>>> code is
>>> acceptable to the ServiceMix community. We are also happy to change
>>> the package names to conform to Apache.  We would be happy to help
>>> support this aspect of ServiceMix within your community and work
>>> closely with others to improve the engine and take it to the next
>>> level.  Would you be interested in accepting an Apache version of  
>>> the
>>> message orchestration code?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cory Harper

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