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From Jason Dillon <>
Subject Re: Removing attributes and refs from the config.xml
Date Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:46:27 GMT
Commit it and let the community implement the rest... seems to have  
worked for at least one project I know of... sorta... kinda... um,  
well nevermind.


On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> I think we are all past the old concerns.  The problem now is how  
> do we switch, which is not an easy problem.  On my laptop I have  
> about half of the server switched to use xbean-reflect, which is  
> xml friendly, but I got sucked into the configId problem.
> -dain
> On Feb 25, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>> On 2/26/06, Jason Dillon <> wrote:
>>> Why would anyone object to using XBean+Spring?
>>> I think that sounds like a good idea.
>> Well the objection wasn't to XBean and Spring per se - they weren't
>> even in the picture back then. The objection was to using XML as the
>> configuraiton mechanism instead of CAR files. Way back when CARs were
>> being suggested as the configuration mechanism, I entered the debate
>> with the rationale that we should use XML instead because it's is  
>> easy
>> to change, it's easy to understand, etc. At that time, there were
>> objections to this line of reasoning because of the overhead of
>> parsing the XML on every startup. The argument was made that CAR  
>> files
>> would start up much faster. I have no idea if this is true or not but
>> IMO the advantages of using XML (and a well known XML dialect like
>> Spring) far outweigh the disadvantages, especially when it comes to
>> offering users a simple but very powerful experience.
>> Bruce
>> --
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>> \!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> );'
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