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From Leo Simons <m...@leosimons.com>
Subject Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures
Date Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:50:02 GMT
(infra@ dropped from CC on purpose)

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:41:26PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> > I think I need:
> > 
> >     * SVN
> >           o http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/yoko
> >     * Jira
> >     * Mailing lists
> >           o yoko-dev@geronimo.apache.org
> >           o yoko-users@geronimo.apache.org
> >           o yoko-commit@geronimo.apache.org
> 
> Hang on a moment.  I see that Geronimo is cool with it,
> but I don't see any discussion of this proposal on
> general@incubator.apache.org..  just the message saying
> that Geronimo wants to sponsor it.
> 
> Before we start setting things up, I'd really like to
> call for some opinions about the proposal from *outside*
> the sponsoring TLP.
> 
> Alan's message points out that the proposal is at
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorbaProposal
> 
> Anyone on general@incubator.apache.org have any comments
> to make on the proposal?  Even just 'yeah, looks good
> to me' ?

No way. *shrug*.

> Mine is that 22 seems a rather large number (!) of initial
> committers for a podling..

And the amount of publicly archived discussion about it or
what the **** is precisely going on or anything like that is
also shockingly missing.

> If nothing further comes from this message within a couple
> of days, let's go ahead.

Personally and as an ASF member, I think its not a good idea
to have a CORBA implementation under the wings of the geronimo
project (Re: "umbrella projects bad" threads from long ago).

As an incubator PMC member, I don't think the incubator should
be telling the geronimo project that they shouldn't have a
CORBA implementation. As I see it, that's a responsibility for
the geronimo PMC (which obviously seems to disagree), its chair
(eg, you), the ASF board, and ultimately the membership. I think
both you and the ASF board are well aware of what is going on
within the geronimo project and I trust that things will work
out one way or another in the end.

Secondly, as an incubator PMC member, I think the geronimo project
is not fulfilling its part of the incubation process and not
communicating enough at all and its making me very grumpy.

I wrote a rather generic message tot dev@geronimo and
general@incubator about this stuff recently. This is just
another example. The only further action I'll be taking with
regard to this mess is ignoring it until it goes away.

- LSD

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