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From Aaron Mulder <>
Subject Re: Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
Date Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:04:54 GMT
This sounds reasonable to me.  I'd prefer to have resolveServer and
always look for /var under there.  If there are multiple config
stores, we'll have to figure out how the deploy tool will know which
one to use.  Perhaps there should be something indicating whether the
config store is "writable" at runtime (vs at server construction time)
and only the server-specific one would be writeable?  Or at least, the
tools would default to writeable ones over not?  (Right now they'd
theoretically deploy to all available config stores, but I think
there's an outstanding issue that the Deployer GBean doesn't let you
specify a config store even if you wanted to.)


On 1/30/06, David Jencks <> wrote:
> Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple
> servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't
> arrived at an agreed on way to do it.  We have a prospective customer
> for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move
> beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone
> implement it.  I believe any implementation will be more or less
> trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do.
> I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than
> restructure anything or add big new capabilities.  If someone sees a
> better way, please speak up.
> So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located
> and can resolve absolute locations for other components.  Then we
> have things like the repository and config store gbeans that
> typically are "located" outside the var dir and things like the
> logging framework,  local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that
> typically keep stuff in the var directory.
> All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so
> they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this
> file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to "relocate".
> I've thought of two related solutions.  Both of them involve giving
> ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method.
> One would be something like "resolveVar" and would normally resolve
> to geronimo_home/var.  This would involve all the gbeans currently
> looking inside var having the "var" trimmed off the front of their
> paths and using the new resolveVar method.  In this case we'd have
> different servers represented as e.g.
> var1
> var2
> var3
> ...
> The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which
> would normally resolve to geronimo_home.  The gbeans looking inside
> var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve
> method instead of the old one.  In this case we'd have servers like
> var
> server1/var
> server2/var
> ...
> In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument
> pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server
> you want to run; the default would presumably be as now "var".
> Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into
> var for "private" use by a particular server.  At the moment I think
> that providing a different config-store class that uses the new
> resolve  method on server info would be the best way to do this.
> I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has
> gone.  Please comment.
> thanks
> david jencks

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