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From "Jason Dillon" <>
Subject Re: Docco system (Confluent, MoinMoin, ...)
Date Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:47:21 GMT
Agreed, the xfr from Moin to Confluence is minor. 

The bigger problem is convincing ASF Infra to let us run Confluence and allow us to setup
the right env for that (rdbms + smtp server)


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From: Andrus Adamchik <>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:58:53
Subject: Re: Docco system (Confluent, MoinMoin, ...)

And a thought regarding the content transfer.

This can be done semi-automatically. Using 'wget' I was able to pull  
the entire *raw* contents of the current geronimo Wiki on my hard  
drive. With a simple Perl script formatting can be converted to  
Confluence style (formatting styles are very close), and then  
manually loaded to Confluence. Should not be such a big deal.


On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:49 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Hi,
> For now I am just lurking on the geronimo list (my primary interest  
> is Cayenne persistence framework, which happens to be container- 
> independent).
> Anyways, I am willing to volunteer to get it going at Apache, still  
> I am not a committer on any of the projects (AFAIK this *is* a  
> requirement). I've been running Confluence for some time for the  
> ObjectStyle community:
> So I have experience setting it up, configuring permissions, doing  
> backups, etc. Good news are that (a) you can delegate user  
> management to Jira, (b) there is almost zero day-to-day maintenance  
> needed and (c) upgrades go smoothly (unlike Jira).
> As an aside, it concerns me somewhat that Apache infrastructure  
> uses MySQL (and there are no alternatives like PostgreSQL, etc.).  
> This may add to the maintenance burden. In any event I'll be glad  
> to help with that, though not sure how at this point.
> Andrus Adamchik
> On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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>> Just some food for thought on the 'which docco system'
>> discussion/vote/etc..
>> Whatever system gets chosen will need to be running on
>> Apache hardware.  That's not an issue for MoinMoin, since
>> it's already there and the infra people are familiar
>> with it.
>> However, if Confluence is the option the project decides
>> to adopt, more is involved than just saying so: some
>> people from the project are going to have to join the
>> infrastructure team and become the Confluence experts
>> and maintainers.
>> If Confluence is selected but no-one will step up to
>> provide the necessary expertise and commitment to make
>> it happen, then Geronimo won't be using Confluence.
>> The all-volunteer infrastructure team is already
>> overloaded; adding yet another application for it to
>> support without adding resources to help in the supporting
>> just isn't going to fly.
>> So, distinct from the voting, if you'd be willing to
>> be one of the supporters of the Confluence environment
>> at the ASF, please speak up here.  Or if you have any
>> other comments about the Confluence/MoinMoin/whatever
>> topic. :-)
>> The infrastructure team may require that anyone joining
>> to support Confluence (if it comes to that) may need to
>> be a project committer.  I'm not sure; I'm checking.
>> But if you're not a committer [yet] but are willing
>> to help out with Confluence, don't let that stop you
>> from volunteering!
>> - --
>> #ken	P-)}
>> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
>> Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/
>> "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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