Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 28477 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2005 02:10:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 02:10:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 62669 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2005 02:10:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 62602 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2005 02:10:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 62575 invoked by uid 99); 9 Dec 2005 02:10:33 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:10:33 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [209.181.65.237] (HELO sun.savoirtech.com) (209.181.65.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:10:32 -0800 Received: from [206.197.197.15] ([206.197.197.15]) by sun.savoirtech.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB92AAVo015764 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:10:11 -0700 Message-ID: <4398E78E.5040708@apache.org> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:10:22 -0700 From: Jeff Genender Reply-To: jgenender@apache.org Organization: Apache Geronimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Installer: Default Web Container Selection References: <200512081308.06565.erikd@schemacity.org> <4398E252.7060108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4398E252.7060108@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1206/Thu Dec 8 12:56:45 2005 on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.3 required=5.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ok then based on this... I hope that this group takes into the account of all votes, including those that use the app server, our community and users. If we cannot be neutral, then minimally we should let the users decide what they want as a default container. If everyone wants Jetty as a default, then I am behind it. But if a majority want Tomcat, lets give the community what they want. A vote was put out...lets see what our users want. Jeff John Sisson wrote: > I have changed my mind, please ignore my previous vote. > > My vote is now: > > [ X ] Make Jetty the default Web Container install selection > > My initial concerns were with users not familiar with Jetty (e.g. Tomcat > users) and the lack of Geronimo documentation on Jetty. I chatted to > Greg W on IRC and he said he will improve the documentation. I have > raised JIRAs GERONIMO-1314 and GERONIMO-1315. > > Thinking about it more, those who already use Tomcat in other projects > are probably going to click Tomcat if they don't go to the trouble of > looking into Jetty. > > I agree with Aaron that we should make it clear in the documentation > that it is only a default to simplify the install process and either > container can be used and both are supported. > > > John > > Erik Daughtrey wrote: > >> The installer should make either Tomcat or Jetty the default >> selection. The operator can always override and select the other. Vote: >> >> [ ] Make Tomcat the default web container install selection >> >> We may run out of time before the votes can be tallied. For that >> reason, I'm making the default Jetty unless someone can provide a good >> reason why it shouldn't be. >> >> FYI - it's been decided that installation of both web containers via >> the installer will not be allowed. Manual configuration of both is >> possible though. >> >>