Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 71427 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2005 23:50:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 2005 23:50:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16609 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2005 23:50:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 16535 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2005 23:50:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 16500 invoked by uid 99); 8 Dec 2005 23:50:32 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50:32 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jrsisson@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.192 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.192] (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.192) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50:32 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1059919wra for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oXw2xokY4nouEZcNqkohMGswMAy3VpZBtW5FNo4mLWHuS6Ex5UuILYdf+tPzrqTFaHgMcTStoLaDyw8LrA4P69xHd0saVJ2qMCW13JDnYv1EL7mfI/aljsnWx575/WeD4mmkLBpsnkFjd8uw+gNqilGM3DLzQY5Dkbpa/vHZFjQ= Received: by 10.54.118.5 with SMTP id q5mr5078579wrc; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?12.105.246.193? ( [12.105.246.193]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g9sm2210511wra.2005.12.08.15.50.09; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4398C6AB.6050702@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:50:03 +1100 From: John Sisson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Does there need to be a default web container? References: <4398C232.9020702@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <4398C232.9020702@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Also if one container is in some way better than another today, that may not be the case in the future. Once we have a default, it will be hard to change in the future. Not having a default also provides a fair playing field for those who are contributing to the project and encourages competition. Let the user decide. John Jeff Genender wrote: > This is obviously a hot topic and I hope that as a Geronimo PMC and > user community we are not forced to have to show preference of one > over the other. There is obviously some personal preferences on both > sides and we are a great open source project because we do not have to > get behind one *or* the other. We can get behind them both. > > May I ask why the installer/wizard cannot have a page called "Choose > Your Web Container" and have an option for Jetty and Tomcat, but > neither selected? Does there need to be a default? Can we just let > the end user choose? > > IMHO, I don't think we should provide a preference for one over the > other. I really like both. I think we should give the user the > choice without hinting a preference. > > Thoughts and comments? > > Jeff >