Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31768 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2005 12:41:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Nov 2005 12:41:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 15847 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2005 12:41:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 15799 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2005 12:41:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 15788 invoked by uid 99); 9 Nov 2005 12:41:54 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:41:54 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [209.235.255.182] (HELO jetty3.inetu.net) (209.235.255.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:41:47 -0800 Received: (qmail 37980 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2005 12:41:31 -0000 Received: from host86-137-48-227.range86-137.btcentralplus.com (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (jules@86.137.48.227) by jetty3.inetu.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Nov 2005 12:41:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4371EE4E.6080700@coredevelopers.net> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:40:46 +0000 From: Jules Gosnell User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: [consolidation] next steps? References: <528E8F98-AF14-4210-988E-59EA1515342B@iq80.com> <436BD5E7.8050606@Golux.Com> <3AB7BA5A-ED67-4A13-9B92-B8AAA10EEA8A@iq80.com> <7b3355cb0511071042i774c48b2y99219c6917dc5e51@mail.gmail.com> <7b3355cb0511071214x76660834keefa8395aec004cd@mail.gmail.com> <7b3355cb0511080729q2e87d6c2ydfc5cee447ab11d6@mail.gmail.com> <9e3862d80511081350i24b2779fra77aae4c2c02b2ba@mail.gmail.com> <4371CE1C.2010903@coredevelopers.net> <9e3862d80511090306t6157fed3v61e18a9bfe658d82@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e3862d80511090306t6157fed3v61e18a9bfe658d82@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Thaks for the clarifications, Brett. Jules Brett Porter wrote: >I'm not on the incubator PMC, so this is just my personal >understanding. I may be getting in over my head :) > >On 11/9/05, Jules Gosnell wrote: > > >>are you saying that these licensing constraints do not apply in the >>incubator - that we just dump all our code in there, no matter what, >>provided that licensing issues are resolved before promotion out of it ? >> >> > >Sorry, I was unclear. I don't think I'd recommend this, but it is >possible as code in the incubator is covered by a disclaimer and no >releases can be made until IP and licensing has been cleared. > > > >>please clarify 'depend on/include' - by this do you mean 'physically >>package together with your binary distribution' or 'import at compile >>time, into classes that are shipped in the binary distribution'. >> >> > >I think both of these constitute a derivative work falling under the >GPL. As far as I know, the only way to combine with GPL applications >is by executing them in a separate process. > > > >>>LGPL may be >>>possible, but only if optional and not distributed with the >>>application. >>> >>> >>> >>so it is OK to 'import' LGPL code at compile time, as long as you don't >>ship it ? >> >> >> >>>There is ongoing discussion around this. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>so it may not actually be OK :-) ? >> >> > >right. >http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200508.mbox/%3c96D75844-B15A-45E3-BF8D-5CF4517A09E2@apache.org%3e > > > >>thanks for helping with this. >> >> > >No problem. I think it would be best to ask these questions of >general@incubator and legal-discuss when it comes to specifics. > >Cheers, >- Brett > > -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /********************************** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * * www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **********************************/