Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4751 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2005 17:10:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2005 17:10:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24105 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2005 17:10:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 24054 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2005 17:10:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 24043 invoked by uid 99); 1 Nov 2005 17:10:52 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:10:52 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [199.237.51.194] (HELO green.rootmode.com) (199.237.51.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:10:48 -0800 X-ClientAddr: 68.171.62.46 Received: from [192.168.15.100] (68-171-62-46.vnnyca.adelphia.net [68.171.62.46]) by green.rootmode.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jA1HAMUh007364 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: <4367815B.5050604@gmail.com> References: <74e15baa0510301855k1b682c36i238385ff84efdea1@mail.gmail.com> <43659339.4080304@hogstrom.org> <74e15baa0510310453s5171d75fr15d9179d1578d7e9@mail.gmail.com> <43677780.2020301@earthlink.net> <43677CAE.2000204@earthlink.net> <4367815B.5050604@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3DFDE799-E5DB-4B15-8F20-220CDF079AAF@iq80.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dain Sundstrom Subject: Re: Remote Deployment Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:10:27 -0800 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-RootMode-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RootMode-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dain@iq80.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Guys, I think we are getting a little to far ahead of Aaron's proposal. Having a servlet to do remote deployment would be a huge step forward for Geronimo, given that remote deployment currently doesn't work. Sure in the future it would be nice to support remote deployment with out requiring a web container and more granulized update support, but for now how about get the basics working? Aaron, Why does the console have a different name in Tomcat and Jetty? Also, will this be a pure http(s) deployment tool or will the tool use both the JMX-RMI and http(s) protocols? I would prefer a pure http client so it can work in the maximum environments? -dain On Nov 1, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: > Please keep in mind the tooling scenarios for this as well. > > I would eventually like like to see some type of granulized update > support. For example, if a user is developing a large application > and testing on a remote server, if a single file in a module is > changed, it would be quite an overhead for the entire application > to have to be repackaged and sent over the network. We need to > think about being able to send partial updates to a remote server. > > Sachin > > Joe Bohn wrote: > >> +1 >> I was thinking the same thing. If implemented as a servlet it >> should be independent of the console. What is used for local >> deploy should be the same as remote deploy. >> Joe >> Dave Colasurdo wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Aaron Mulder wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Forget about multiple web containers. The issue is, I know >>>> there's a >>>> servlet o.a.g.RemoteDeployerServlet running in some web app in >>>> Geronimo. What is the URL to contact it? To start with, you >>>> need to >>>> determine which web application it's in (since we already use >>>> different names for the console for Jetty/Tomcat you can't just >>>> hardcode a name), and then you need to determine what the URL is to >>>> access that web application, which means inspecting its list of >>>> connectors. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Is remote deployment unique to the web console? Shouldn't remote >>> deployment also be possible from the command line or >>> programatically via JMX. Projects/products that embed Geronimo >>> may wish to remove the web console altogether in an attempt to >>> use G as a hidden embedded server for their application with only >>> their preset configurations. >>> >>> Perhaps a new non-webcontainer specific ( not specific to jetty >>> or tomcat) file transfer web application that is not tied to the >>> console should be created. >>> >>> >