Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:34:28 -0500
From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <geirm@apache.org>
Subject: Re: [consolidation] next steps?
In-reply-to: <7b3355cb0511090809v6cdb4eeu15d8d28df954b670@mail.gmail.com>
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Message-id: <03C52746-939C-4EC2-B13D-B494F50BF414@apache.org>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
References: <528E8F98-AF14-4210-988E-59EA1515342B@iq80.com>
 <3AB7BA5A-ED67-4A13-9B92-B8AAA10EEA8A@iq80.com>
 <7b3355cb0511071042i774c48b2y99219c6917dc5e51@mail.gmail.com>
 <EBB383E0-D6CD-4B0C-8883-32999B733801@iq80.com>
 <7b3355cb0511071214x76660834keefa8395aec004cd@mail.gmail.com>
 <B078AE46-BAC7-48F7-A783-BFA3C2EA0ADB@apache.org>
 <7b3355cb0511080729q2e87d6c2ydfc5cee447ab11d6@mail.gmail.com>
 <9e3862d80511081350i24b2779fra77aae4c2c02b2ba@mail.gmail.com>
 <4371CE1C.2010903@coredevelopers.net>
 <13265131-5D4B-4355-B9DF-E98A333A9EF8@apache.org>
 <7b3355cb0511090809v6cdb4eeu15d8d28df954b670@mail.gmail.com>


On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:

> On 11/9/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> if you import GPL at compile time, the virality of the GPL requires
>> that you license under the GPL, so clearly that's not allowed.
>
> Geir, do you know if this includes the use of reflection against a
> class so as to avoid a compile time dependency?

I'm not sure.  I don't think about GPL much.  It is a runtime thing,  
and from the GPL preamble :

"Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
covered by this License; they are outside its scope.  The act of
running the Program is not restricted..."

which supports my understanding that runtime activity such as you  
suggest is ok...

However, IANAL, and I tend to stay away from GPL-ed code.  It's scary :)

>
>> GPL isn't alllowed at all.
>
> My understanding the above statement, but I'm asking my previous
> question because it appears that the stance may be softening a bit.

No, because you still can't distribute the code, keep it in SVN/CVS,  
etc.  your user could go get the code and try to make it work, I  
suppose....

geir

>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\! 
> G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> The Castor Project
> http://www.castor.org/
>
> Apache Geronimo
> http://geronimo.apache.org/

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org