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From Heinz Drews <heinz.dr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Binary images for Geronimo 1.0?
Date Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:25:31 GMT
But if it is difficult to change between the two options it would be
even more difficult to choose the one to start with.

Heinz


On 11/6/05, Joe Bohn <joe.bohn@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I think that until we have the "ideal" solution we will just be
> confusing our users and causing them grief.
>
> While the "change on the fly" option is great for developers (esp.
> developers of Geronimo itself :-) ), it isn't so good for the typical
> user.   Users who are using Geronimo to host their business applications
> won't understand why "jetty" appears in the list of configurations when
> I installed a "tomcat" only server.
>
> It also provides enough rope for some users to hang themselves ...
> changing from one server to the other only to discover that they web
> apps they had previously deployed are no longer functional.
>
> Joe
>
> Heinz Drews wrote:
> > I would see the "mininum" as the ideal solution and the other as a
> > less preferrable.
> > Assuming that somebody starts with using Jetty and then finding that
> > Tomcat would have been the bettter choice it would be easier just to
> > change the configuration than to perform a complete re-install.
> >
> > Just as a not counting opinion.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Heinz
> >
> > On 11/5/05, Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>I agree completely (your ideal is also my ideal, and your minimum is
> >>my preferred "worst case" as well).
> >>
> >>WRT the documentation, there are really no noticable differences
> >>between Tomcat and Jetty until you get far beyond the level of
> >>documentation we include in a release, so I don't think this will be a
> >>big issue.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>    Aaron
> >>
> >>On 11/4/05, Dain Sundstrom <dain@iq80.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>With Geronimo 1.0 quickly approaching, I think we should talk about
> >>>how we would like to package the binaries for release.  This has
> >>>downstream impact on tck testing, and since I'm working on the TCK
> >>>build right now, I'd like to know what we are going to need to test.
> >>>So to get the discussion going, this is what I think would be ideal
> >>>and what we need at the minimum:
> >>>
> >>>Ideal:
> >>>geronimo-installer: The user can choose between Tomcat and Jetty.
> >>>Only the resources for the web server they choose are installed.
> >>>geronimo-tomcat.(zip | tgz):  Contains a Tomcat only version of
> >>>Geronimo with no Jetty resources.
> >>>geronimo-jetty.(zip | tgz):  Contains a Jetty only version of
> >>>Geronimo with no unnecessary Tomcat resources.
> >>>
> >>>Minimum:
> >>>geronimo-installer: The user can choose between Tomcat and Jetty.
> >>>Resources are installed for both, and the installer just sets the
> >>>chosen web server to boot by default.
> >>>geronimo-tomcat.(zip | tgz):  Contains a full image of Geronimo with
> >>>both Tomcat and Jetty resources, but only Tomcat will start by default.
> >>>geronimo-jetty.(zip | tgz):  Contains a full image of Geronimo with
> >>>both Tomcat and Jetty resources, but only Jetty will start by default.
> >>>
> >>>What do you think?
> >>>
> >>>-dain
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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