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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject Re: Proposal: apache-wide specs project
Date Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:05:02 GMT
Actually I thought about this for a bit longer and would like to  
withdraw my +1 and replace it with a -1.

I think we should setup a sub project inside of geronimo to crete the  
j2ee spec implementations, manage the repo as the specs go through  
JEE5 revisions, and handle release/patches.  Only once we get the  
procedures worked out for our small case, should we propose a top  
level project.  My big fear about trying to create a top level  
project right now is geronimo-specs is currently not well defined  
within geronimo itself, and the whole effort will get dragged out  
into policy/legal discussions with lots of people that aren't  
involved in writing or using the code (i.e. are dogmatic instead of  


On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:58 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> +1
> -dain
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:43 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>> Many people have talked on and off about setting up an apache-wide  
>> specs project.  With the recent move to separate our copies of the  
>> specs and build them with maven 2 perhaps this is a good time to  
>> try to get this started.
>> Here are some steps we could take:
>> -Identify projects with java spec implementations in them.  They  
>> include at least:
>>   geronimo
>>   tomcat
>>   pluto (have already expressed interest)
>>   axis
>>   scout (?)
>> --Approach the projects to see if they are interested
>> --Appropriate the M2 groupId org.apache.specs
>> --Based on the support we get  proposing a new top level project.   
>> This is going to be an unusual project in that it's expected that  
>> changes will only take place when new specs come out :-)
>> We could all start using the groupId org.apache.specs even before  
>> an actual project was set up.  This might just cause confusion  
>> though.
>> Thoughts?
>> many thanks
>> david jencks

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