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From: Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
Subject: Re: Consolidating the community
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:30:26 -0500
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org

Hi John,

On Oct 29, 2005, at 11:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:

> Sounds like a great idea.
>
> OpenEJB, TranQL, ActiveMQ would be great to have as part of the  
> community.
>
> I noticed that Xbean was suggested.  How is Xbean currently related  
> to Geronimo?  Is this the Spring based gbean.org project with a new  
> name (www.gbean.org now takes me to the Codehaus main page)?  If  
> so, what are the pros and cons to moving to this?
>

xbean is what activemq 4.x and servicemix 2.x are using for wiring up  
it's components.  I think the the openejb folks are also jumping on  
and starting to use it too.  Seems like Dan from xfire, has started  
to also drive requirements into so I guess xfire may start using it  
soon too.

> Does OSGi compete with/overlap Xbean functionality? If so is it  
> premature to consider Xbean before we have considered OSGi?
>

I've got a feeling it's complimentary.  ActiveMQ and servicemix only  
uses xbean for configuration wiring.  The one thing I'm keeping an  
eye on OSGi is for it's classpath/native library management (would  
come in handy for servicemix).

Regards,
Hiram


> I did a search for xbean on the Geronimo dev mailing list and  
> haven't found anything, except for references to XMLBeans.   
> XMLBeans jars are named xbean-2.x.x AFAIK.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>
>> Why not consolidate the entire Geronimo community, or as much as   
>> possible, into the Geronimo project itself?
>> I bounced this idea off a few people and the feedback I got was  
>> very  positive.  This idea keeps popping up and before it gets to  
>> far along  I want to bring it to the dev list.
>> One thing you should really think about is this requires a big   
>> commitment from the Geronimo community.  There are a lot of  
>> projects,  code and committers that we will need to integrate into  
>> our  community.  Most of the projects will have to go through  
>> incubation,  which as you all know is not easy.  On the positive  
>> side, we already  work closely with these projects, and are very  
>> familiar with the  communities and code.
>> As you can tell, I'm very excited about this.  What do you  
>> think?   Who would want to come?
>> -dain
>