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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 00:11:33 -0400
From: Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu>
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
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On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to vote?

I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
but it seemed like it would be rude.  So now I'm hoping that the vote
drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
installer.  :)

Aaron

> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
> > Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
> > previous release is.  I would be happy to make that a condition of
> > Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
> >
> > It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
> > assembly zip.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think there are a couple of issues:
> >> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
> >> doing
> >> it again for a while.  I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
> >> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro.  I
> >> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
> >> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
> >> all/most of the files.  It's probably fine if we build the installer
> >> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
> >> opinions on
> >> this.
> >>
> >> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
> >> assembly module copy as the zip.  That's one of David Blevin's
> >> machines, so he should do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
> >>> our own IzPack.  But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
> >>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.  (Also,
> >>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
> >>> because
> >>> the download was troublesome for you, right?  If I had a nickel for
> >>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
> >> advertised
> >> site with automated downloads and usually works fine.  Stuff
> >> available
> >> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
> >> authors.  The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
> >> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked.  It
> >> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
> >> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
> >> really
> >> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
> >> release.
> >> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
> >>
> >> Anyone else have an opinion?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> david jencks
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cool.  Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> well, I'm not sure.  I see two potential problems, aside from being
> >>>> too
> >>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
> >>>> that the
> >>>> installer version wasn't certified?  Or is it certified???  I'd
> >>>> prefer
> >>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version.  I think it
> >>>> would
> >>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
> >>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test.  If we found a
> >>>> way to
> >>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
> >>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
> >>>> be an
> >>>> issue.  Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
> >>>> built from the same assembly as the zip.  I'm just not sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
> >>>> for
> >>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
> >>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
> >>>> so we
> >>>> can put out a installer version.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>> david jencks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>     Aaron
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 from me
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> geir
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The 1.0-M5  branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
> >>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
> >>>>>>> zip.
> >>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
> >>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again).  I think the process
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
> >>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
> >>>>>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>