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From J <>
Subject Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines
Date Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:54:01 GMT
I think one needs to understand the principle of design. To look at the
issue subjectively and not emotionally. Once emotions are attached then is
no longer a design and more a personal issue.

All I was trying to do here is to educate this community to look at the
logo's subjectively and not with emotions.

My intentions are not to offend rather to educate.

I am sorry if educating is seen as offensive.

On 10/9/05, Jeff Genender <> wrote:
> J wrote:
> > Now whether I have or have not created a logo for this particular
> > contest is irrevelant. I am just concerned about reading about this push
> > if you all will for 2-3 logo's that quite honestly are not good and well
> > just seem like they had no thought behind them.
> This seems awfully opinionated and is a bit condescending to the
> community. Are you saying the community has rotten taste and doesn't
> pick logos that have "thought" behind them? I personally find this
> statement offensive.
> >
> > A logo is a statement. A logo is an item with thought. And a handful of
> > these logo's look more like an in the box concept that just steroetypes
> > Native American's then actually helps the apache project out.
> What do you call the Apache feather then? I am sorry, but that feather
> is obviously attached to a form of native american image. Do you feel
> this way about the current Apache logo?
> >
> > So the main question is this will there be a real vote with real time
> > opporutnity to see results for all the logo's or just wait until #11
> > gets picked because well it sucks, not well thought out and a good
> > number of you like it for some unknown, ungodly reason?
> Is there a reason this type of verbage needs to be used? Can we engage
> without showing disrespect? IMHO, I think we don't need to rate
> people's taste factor. Again, I find this particularly offensive.

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