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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Date Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:53:48 GMT
How do we want to proceed?

As i understand it, the tgz and zip distros are done and tested, and  
all is well.  Can we release those and follow up with the installer  
as soon as available?

geir

On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:40 AM, David Jencks wrote:

> First, the good news:
>
> All the tck tests pass for the 1.0-M5 candidate build for both  
> jetty and tomcat!
>
> Unfortunately, there seems to be a problem with the geronimo- 
> installer.jar.  It works fine for jetty but the tomcat included  
> does not seem to include GERONIMO-1036: the tomcat configurations  
> are not relocatable.
>
> I've done some experiments and it appears that the zip distro does  
> include this fix, and "reverse engineering" the zip distro into an  
> installer also includes this fix (but has other problems).  So, I  
> think david used the wrong copy of geronimo to build the installer  
> and we will have to try again tomorrow.
>
> Thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:15 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
>
>> Ta-da!
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-installer.jar
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:49 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care  
>>>>> to vote?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package  
>>>> available,
>>>> but it seemed like it would be rude.  So now I'm hoping that the  
>>>> vote
>>>> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
>>>> installer.  :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've managed to convince myself that we can claim the tests we  
>>> have already run cover the installer version as well as the zip  
>>> version since they include exactly the same jar files, directory  
>>> structure, and configurations.  The only difference is in the  
>>> config.xml and config.list files, which are changed to run the  
>>> tck anyway.  I would prefer in the future that the Izpack stuff  
>>> be run from a maven plugin and integrated in the build and work  
>>> by unpacking or including the zip distribution, but am willing to  
>>> use what we have for M5.  David Blevins is working on building an  
>>> installer.  With luck it will be available shortly.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven  
>>>>>> -- the
>>>>>> previous release is.  I would be happy to make that a  
>>>>>> condition of
>>>>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>>>>> assembly zip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up
for
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> it again for a while.  I would prefer to find a way to claim
 
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip  
>>>>>>> distro.  I
>>>>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built
by
>>>>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than  
>>>>>>> copying
>>>>>>> all/most of the files.  It's probably fine if we build the  
>>>>>>> installer
>>>>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>>>>> opinions on
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the
 
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> assembly module copy as the zip.  That's one of David Blevin's
>>>>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can
 
>>>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>>>> our own IzPack.  But really, I don't think there's a  
>>>>>>>> compelling need
>>>>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the  
>>>>>>>> product.  (Also,
>>>>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's
only
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right?  If I had a
 
>>>>>>>> nickel for
>>>>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>>>>> advertised
>>>>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine.  Stuff
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released 

>>>>>>> by its
>>>>>>> authors.  The current version of izpack is on a secret site 

>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet  
>>>>>>> worked.  It
>>>>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it  
>>>>>>> was built.
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but
I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cool.  Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well, I'm not sure.  I see two potential problems, aside
 
>>>>>>>>> from being
>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make
it clear
>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified?  Or is it certified???
  
>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version.
 I  
>>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not
 
>>>>>>>>> sure about
>>>>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test.  If we
found a
>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution
 
>>>>>>>>> and just
>>>>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think
this  
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>>>> issue.  Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified
 
>>>>>>>>> if it is
>>>>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip.  I'm just not
sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least
 
>>>>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the
 
>>>>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these
 
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>     Aaron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make
this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5  branch passed all the tck tests,
so David  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built
a candidate  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release
based on this tag
>>>>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again). 
I think the  
>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing
the  
>>>>>>>>>>>> jars,
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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