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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Date Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:52:21 GMT

On Oct 3, 2005, at 12:11 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to  
>> vote?
>>
>
> I would like to vote -1 until there's an installer package available,
> but it seemed like it would be rude.  So now I'm hoping that the vote
> drags on long enough for David and I to work out the path to the
> installer.  :)

I'd like to see the installer too, but isn't the packaging a  
different issue?  Can't the installer-based distro follow the plain- 
jane .tgz and .zip if it had to?

geir

>
> Aaron
>
>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
>>> previous release is.  I would be happy to make that a condition of
>>> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>>>
>>> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the
>>> assembly zip.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>>>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for
>>>> doing
>>>> it again for a while.  I would prefer to find a way to claim  
>>>> that the
>>>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip  
>>>> distro.  I
>>>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>>>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>>>> all/most of the files.  It's probably fine if we build the  
>>>> installer
>>>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other
>>>> opinions on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>>>> assembly module copy as the zip.  That's one of David Blevin's
>>>> machines, so he should do it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can  
>>>>> distribute
>>>>> our own IzPack.  But really, I don't think there's a compelling  
>>>>> need
>>>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.   
>>>>> (Also,
>>>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only
>>>>> because
>>>>> the download was troublesome for you, right?  If I had a nickel  
>>>>> for
>>>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well
>>>> advertised
>>>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine.  Stuff
>>>> available
>>>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>>>> authors.  The current version of izpack is on a secret site that  
>>>> you
>>>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet  
>>>> worked.  It
>>>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was  
>>>> built.
>>>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I
>>>> really
>>>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next
>>>> release.
>>>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool.  Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, I'm not sure.  I see two potential problems, aside from  
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> installer version wasn't certified?  Or is it certified???  I'd
>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version.  I think it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure  
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test.  If we found a
>>>>>> way to
>>>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and  
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would
>>>>>> be an
>>>>>> issue.  Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if  
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip.  I'm just not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least  
>>>>>> couldn't get
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the  
>>>>>> installer kit
>>>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions
>>>>>> so we
>>>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>     Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5  branch passed all the tck tests, so David
Blevins
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate
1.0-M5
>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this
tag
>>>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again).  I think the
process
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the
jars,
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr
>>>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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