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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] -- M5 release -- (Was Re: 1.0-M5 candidate build)
Date Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:45:10 GMT
Aaron - how do you feel about actually releasing this... care to vote?

:)

geir

On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

> Well, as soon as IzPack 3.8 goes final, it should be in Maven -- the
> previous release is.  I would be happy to make that a condition of
> Geronimo 1.0, but I don't think it's necessary for M5.
>
> It's fine with me if the installer is build by unpacking the  
> assembly zip.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I think there are a couple of issues:
>> 1. It is a really lot of work to run the tck, and I'm not up for  
>> doing
>> it again for a while.  I would prefer to find a way to claim that the
>> geronimo installer is covered by the tests run on the zip distro.  I
>> would be quite happy claiming this if the installer was built by
>> unpacking the zip into the installer directory rather than copying
>> all/most of the files.  It's probably fine if we build the installer
>> using the same assembly directory, but I'd like some other  
>> opinions on
>> this.
>>
>> 2. Related to the above, we should build the installer on the same
>> assembly module copy as the zip.  That's one of David Blevin's
>> machines, so he should do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, if we can distribute our own Axis, I'm sure we can distribute
>>> our own IzPack.  But really, I don't think there's a compelling need
>>> to, since no one needs IzPack to install or run the product.  (Also,
>>> you say you couldn't get a copy for yourself, but that's only  
>>> because
>>> the download was troublesome for you, right?  If I had a nickel for
>>> every time ibiblio crapped out... :)
>>>
>>
>> Ibiblio sometimes has problems, but it is a well known well  
>> advertised
>> site with automated downloads and usually works fine.  Stuff  
>> available
>> from it has at least theoretically been officially released by its
>> authors.  The current version of izpack is on a secret site that you
>> need a password for and that in my experience has not yet worked.  It
>> has not been officially released and I have no idea how it was built.
>> I'm not sure how much of an issue I have with this for M5 but I  
>> really
>> don't want to continue this state of affairs through the next  
>> release.
>> I think izpack has to be run from maven.
>>
>> Anyone else have an opinion?
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 10/2/05, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cool.  Can you publish a candidate installer, too?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well, I'm not sure.  I see two potential problems, aside from being
>>>> too
>>>> tired right now to put it together :-)
>>>>
>>>> 1. We aren't set up to certify it, how would we make it clear  
>>>> that the
>>>> installer version wasn't certified?  Or is it certified???  I'd  
>>>> prefer
>>>> to find a way to certify the installer based version.  I think it
>>>> would
>>>> be easy to build the installer using maven, but I'm not sure about
>>>> unpacking/running it to get something to test.  If we found a  
>>>> way to
>>>> make the installer include the certified zip distribution and just
>>>> unpack it and change the config.* files I don't think this would  
>>>> be an
>>>> issue.  Maybe it's ok to claim the installer is certified if it is
>>>> built from the same assembly as the zip.  I'm just not sure.
>>>>
>>>> 2. It's built with unreleased software that I at least couldn't get
>>>> for
>>>> myself. I suppose that we could include a copy of the installer kit
>>>> version we use, as we have included a copy of axis.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I hope we can figure out a way to answer these questions  
>>>> so we
>>>> can put out a installer version.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>     Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (just making it clear for others)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the incredible work to make this happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 8:15 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 1.0-M5  branch passed all the tck tests, so David Blevins
 
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> have tagged geronimo and openejb and built a candidate 1.0-M5
 
>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>> We are running the tck on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The zip is available for testing at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~dblevins/geronimo-1.0-M5.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'd like to call for a vote on a release based on this tag
>>>>>>> conditional on the tck passing (again).  I think the process
 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be that after the vote we would work on publishing the jars,
 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> zip distribution, and a source distribution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   
>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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