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From David Jencks <david_jen...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Geronimo Samples
Date Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:36:17 GMT
I agree with Dain.

Sing Li contributed a couple samples, GERONIMO-730 and 731.  We should 
check that they still work and commit them.  I'm going to ask him for a 
CLA just to be on the safe side.

thanks
david jencks

On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> On Oct 11, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Dave Colasurdo wrote:
>
>> Is there anybody out there?  Also, one additional update below..
>
> I've been on a lot of airplanes lately...
>
>> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the community needs to settle on how Samples will be 
>>> organized within Geronimo..
>>> I've taken a stab at a few of the issues and have offered my 
>>> suggestions on how to resolve.
>>> 1) Where in the geronimo source tree will samples reside?
>>> The directory tree:  geronimo/applications/samples should contain 
>>> (demo, magicGball, DayTrader, etc.).  This separates the samples 
>>> from other geronimo applications (e.g. jmxdebug, uddi-server, 
>>> welcome).
>
> +1
>
>>> 2) Will the samples (or a subset of samples) exist in the binary 
>>> download images?
>>> Yes, have a small, simple web application available as part of the 
>>> binary download image (perhaps demo or magicGball).  This will 
>>> provide a good first time experience for new users.  An experienced 
>>> user can easily remove this sample from the binary before embedding 
>>> in a separate project/product.
>
> +1
>
>>> 3) Should there be a separately downloadable set of additional 
>>> samples that can be easily installed and run on Geronimo?
>>> Yes, Have an additional downloadable package of samples available 
>>> that can be easily installed and run on geronimo.
>
> I think we should have one small example covering the normal feature 
> (i.e., not corba) ship with the server, and have more samples 
> available for download (maybe as tutorials).
>
>>> 4) Will the samples exist as selective choices in the downloadable 
>>> installer images?
>>> Yes, the geronimo installer will provide a selectable choice for a 
>>> small simple web application.  I believe the installer is already 
>>> doing this.
>
> Sure.
>
>>> 5) How will the samples be surfaced to the users?
>>> The small simple web application(s) will be predeployed in the 
>>> binary image and selectable as an option in the installer binary.
>>> The Geronimo Welcome Page will contain links to these samples.  The 
>>> Welcome page will also contain a link that points to the download 
>>> site which contains the additional samples and documentation/scripts 
>>> for installing these additional samples.
>
> +1
>
>>> 6) What samples should we make available in the binary and installer 
>>> download image?
>>> The default samples in the binary and installer should be Demo (and 
>>> possibly  magicGball).
>>>
>> Hmmmm. After looking at Demo. not too sure it is the best choice.. 
>> MagicGball does seems a bit better though doesn't really demonstrate 
>> the technology (at least not directly in your face).  Tomcat has done 
>> a good job in this space with servlets-examples and jsp-examples.. 
>> They show some of the J2EE concepts and provide an easy way to look 
>> at the source from the browser.
>
> Good point.  Do you want to take a crack at creating some better 
> examples?
>
>>> 7) What samples should be available as a separate download?
>>> -Existing Tomcat Samples (Servlet Examples, JSP Examples)... These 
>>> appear to work on Geronimo (w/ Jetty) with one minor change
>>> -Day Trader (currently in sandbox)
>>> -Petstore (currently in sandbox)
>>> -Migration samples (currently under discussion on the devlist)
>>> -Any other sample that can be used to showcase the geronimo 
>>> functionality.. Lets add to this list..
>>> -Didn't someone else donate some samples awhile back?
>
> +1
>
>>> 7) What else is needed?
>>> Each additional sample should have documentation and possibly simple 
>>> scripts and plans to setup the environment (e.g. datasource).
>>> Also, consider adding the source code to the sample.  This can be 
>>> quite useful for users.  Tomcat (Servlet and JSP examples)have 
>>> provided the source as part of their samples.
>
> I suggest a wiki page for each sample, so users can easily share their 
> experiences.
>
> -dain
>


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