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From "Dain Sundstrom (JIRA)" <...@geronimo.apache.org>
Subject [jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-680) New users "buy-in" hampered by inability to automatically rebuild sub-assemblies at runtime
Date Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:54:56 GMT
     [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-680?page=all ]
     
Dain Sundstrom closed GERONIMO-680:
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> New users "buy-in" hampered by inability to automatically rebuild sub-assemblies at runtime
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>          Key: GERONIMO-680
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-680
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Improvement
>     Reporter: Sing Li
>      Fix For: 1.0-M5
>  Attachments: ScriptingModule.patch
>
> Sizable population of current Tomcat, Jetty, 
> OpenEJB, and ActiveMQ users will soon take a look at
> Geronimo.
> Unfortunately, they are very likely to walk away out of 
> pure frustration :-(
> The current usage model for these products are very similar 
> to that of the Apache web server.  A user can:
> 1. change the config file, for example httpd.conf
> 2. restart the server, for example ... via apachectl
> 3. immediately try the new server in action
> This model allows for rapid revision/iteration 
> during experimentation, debugging, and on-the-fly 
> config rewrites.
> Unfortunately, attempting to do the same with 
> their favourite server INSIDE Geronimo will 
> (today) require:
> 1. download of the entire Geronimo source base
> 2. research and understand Maven
> 3. research and understand SVN and CVS
> 4. understand the Geronimo build process
> 5. crossed digits during assorted build failures -
> out-of-sync repository, server lock-ups, etc
> 6. days on end searching mailing list archives (if
> the search feature isn't still broken)
> 7. endless hours lurking on the IRC
> 8. days and days of wondering why he/she is doing it
> All of this is required to make a simple change
> that formerly equates to a text file edit
> and server restart.
> Somewhere between step 1 and 8 above, most sane
> user would have quit, disappointed.  
> Not every server user aspires to become a 
> server-system developer :-(
>  
> Even though this problems will likely go away once 
> GUI admin/deployment/configuration tools 
> and GUI assemblies-construction-kits become available,
> there is an obvious need to address the usability 
> issue in the interim.

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