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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:45:49 -0400
From: Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu>
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Subject: Re: Logo Contest Update - The Final Days
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I don't know if the artist behind #11 is available, but it might make
it a little more PC to remove the lower left & right vertical
feathers.  For some reason, I think that would make it evoke less of
an image of a person to me.  Though it's less of an issue for the
small versions of that logo (100x30, for example).  Anyway, I do like
it.

Aaron

On 9/30/05, Matt Hogstrom <matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> Totally agree with your comments and I think all of them should be includ=
ed (11 is my personal favorite as well) :)
>
> That's why I called them out to make sure there were no surprises at the =
end.
>
> If you have a reference to what Noel said that would be great :)
>
> - Matt
>
> Jeff Genender wrote:
> > What is wrong with some of the others? Example, #11...I thought that th=
e
> > headress and its history was made clear by Noel, and thus was acceptabl=
e.
> > Also I assume the headress is a native american symbol (a lot more
> > feathers), not an image of a native american.
> >
> > Please correct me if I am wrong. (I know...I REALLY like #11 and want i=
t
> > to have a fair shake). ;-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Based on the criteria below I think the following images meet the
> >>parameters:
> >>
> >>Entry # 2   URL: http://www.flyermoney.com/geronimo/
> >>Entry # 3   URL: http://elegoff.free.fr/geronimo/
> >>Entry # 4   URL: http://www.ashishgokhale.com/geronimo.htm
> >>Entry # 9   URL: http://www.structuredview.com/geronimo/index.html
> >>Entry # 12  URL: http://www.dotech.com/geronimo/Apache_logos1.jpg
> >>Entry # 13  URL: http://www.dotech.com/geronimo/Apache_logos2.jpg
> >>Entry # 14  URL: http://www.dotech.com/geronimo/Apache_logos3.jpg
> >>Entry # 15  URL: http://www.dotech.com/geronimo/Apache_logos5.jpg
> >>Entry # 16  URL: http://eischen.free.fr/gero/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>Links that need to be discussed:
> >>These entries use a headdress (which is a bunch of feathers).
> >>Entry # 7   URL: http://amethystpublishing.com/Apache%20Geronimo.htm
> >>Entry # 10  URL: http://www.structuredview.com/armitage/index.html
> >>Entry # 11  URL: http://www.media-style.com/geronimo/
> >>
> >>My personal preference on these is that they should be allowable.  I
> >>prefer to judge based on merit.  I think these are tastefully done.  We
> >>need a ruling of the PRC on these.
> >>
> >>
> >>Links that are not compatible with the parameters established below:
> >>Entry # 6   URL: http://rainhousemedia.com/geronimo/
> >>Entry # 16  URL:
> >>http://www.epiqtech.com/corp/products/technology/opensource/geronimo.ht=
m
> >>
> >>Links that no longer are functional and could not be verified:
> >>Entry # 5   URL: http://www.morpheuschameleon.net/GeronimoLogo/
> >>Entry # 8   URL: http://ericlegoff.homelinux.org/geronimo.html
> >>
> >>- Matt
> >>
> >>Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sep 30, 2005, at 9:10 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>All,
> >>>>
> >>>>The Logo contest has inspired many to get their creative juices
> >>>>flowing and put some great effort into designing some excellent
> >>>>artwork. Unfortunately, we can't use every one of the items that  hav=
e
> >>>>been donated so we'll have to pare them down to a single winner.
> >>>>
> >>>>As of this morning there are 17 Entries posted on the Wiki.  They  ca=
n
> >>>>be found at http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/LogoContest .
> >>>>
> >>>>I propose the following time line to bring this to a timely
> >>>>conclusion.
> >>>>
> >>>>Allow for last minute changes and additions to the logos so a vote
> >>>>can be taken on a finite set of entries.  This will be a one week
> >>>>period ending at: 23:59 PDT on October 8th.
> >>>>
> >>>>A one week period for voting by members on the dev and user  Geronimo
> >>>>lists.  A voting format will be posted to the list to make  tabulatin=
g
> >>>>the results easier.  This will come out on Friday  October 7th.
> >>>>
> >>>>Give one week for votes on the final sets of artwork from 00:01
> >>>>Saturday October 8th through 00:01 PDT Saturday October 15th.   Durin=
g
> >>>>this time, discussion is welcome on the various entries on  the dev
> >>>>list.  Please make sure we keep them in a single thread.
> >>>>
> >>>>As indicated on the Wiki, the PPMC is responsible for the final
> >>>>selection but the voting and feedback from the community is  critical
> >>>>to making the best choice.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>s/PPMC/PMC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And I'd like to pre-filter based on the PRC guidelines.  I've been
> >>>discussing with them, and I've asked that they produce a final set of
> >>>guidelines.  However, the important one for us will be :
> >>>
> >>>"logo should not incorporate Native American images or
> >>>existing cultural/religious symbolism.  However, new symbols that
> >>>merely evoke a native american theme (such as the feather) are fine."
> >>>
> >>>So I'd like to get rid of the ones that violate this guideline before
> >>>we have the community vote.
> >>>
> >>>geir
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>