Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16433 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2005 14:17:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2005 14:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25101 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2005 14:17:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 25058 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2005 14:17:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 25045 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2005 14:17:22 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:17:22 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [66.163.169.226] (HELO smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:17:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 15472 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2005 14:16:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?9.27.152.140?) (spalias78@129.33.49.251 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2005 14:16:58 -0000 Message-ID: <433802D6.2070905@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:16:54 -0400 From: Sachin Patel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geronimo-dev Subject: Better integration between Eclipse WTP / Geronimo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N The Eclipse Web Tools Project comes pre-packaged with server adapters for many application servers, including Tomcat, Weblogic, WebSphere, JBoss, JOnAS. Since we've moved the Geronimo plug-in development over to Apache, we're no longer included with WTP. Users must be aware that a plugin exists for Geronimo and they must go install it themselves. Even though this is not a problem and trivial to do this, we've essentially lost this so called "free advertisement". Also WTP does not ship any runtimes, only the server adapter for those runtimes. So in the Geronimo case, users not only have to manually point to the update site and install the plug-in, but they must also install the application server itself. It would be much nicer if we could get tighter integration with WTP so users can avoid any manual intervention at all. So I was on a call last week with some members of WTP and what came out of the meeting was the following feature proposals.... https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=110453 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=110455 So to summarize what the following will accomplish... Users will download only WTP. Once launched they will be able to go to "New --> Server". Geronimo will automatically be pre-listed as one of the choices. If chosen, WTP will go out to the Geronimo update site without users having to point to it, and pop up the license and will install the plugin as well as download and install the Application Server!! The plugin will then automatically be configured for that install image. This I think will help integrate Eclipse WTP very nicely with Geronimo. >From our end there will be minimal coding that will need to be done from the plugin site. The main piece of work for enablement will be to set up an update site not only for the plug-in, but for the server as well. If anyone has any objections to make the server available for download through the Eclipse update manager site, let me know. Otherwise I will work with the Eclipse team to get this set up. Sachin.