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I thought we were going to cut on 9/16

On 9/12/2005 4:15 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:

> I think today will be it ;-)
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> So, where do we think we are today?
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:39 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>
>>> I think we've made significant progress in the last week towards  
>>> being ready to make the branch for M5, but I think there may be  
>>> reasons to wait a couple more days.  There are 2 features that  
>>> people want to get in (security improvements and DDL generation)  
>>> that I would like to see in M5, and more stabilization is needed in  
>>> any case before the release.  I think that unless someone is  
>>> waiting to get a new feature in that shouldn't go in M5 we should  
>>> wait until monday and see where we are.
>>>
>>> If anyone is contemplating a commit that may destabilize our code  
>>> please speak up so we can branch beforehand.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok ...I am hijacking this thread... enough discussion...lets vote  
>>>> on it...
>>>>
>>>> [ ] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>>> [ ] I think it should be after Friday...and should be on ______
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me:
>>>> [X] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Blevins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     What is the point of the "frozen list"?  At this point, it   
>>>>>>> doesn't appear to have stopped development of things that  
>>>>>>> aren't  on the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list for what we are agreeing to go into M5.  If something   
>>>>>> isn't on the list and its an added bonus, then fine.  We need a   
>>>>>> closure date at this point.  I think we have all agreed what is   
>>>>>> minimally in the cut.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Maybe we should make the branch like Friday, so any code  
>>>>>>> not on
>>>>>>> the list has to go into HEAD, and just have a longer closing   
>>>>>>> period to
>>>>>>> resolve the list items.  There is a lot on the list, so that  
>>>>>>> would  mean a
>>>>>>> lot of merges to HEAD, but unless everyone is willing to hold  
>>>>>>> off on
>>>>>>> non-list items, I'm not sure we're actually moving toward  
>>>>>>> greater  stability in the mean time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..shall we branch on Friday?  Anhyone have any issues with  
>>>>>> this?   I am game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Friday is great.  Aaron expressed the same concern I was  
>>>>> thinking  about; getting further and further from stable the long  
>>>>> we wait to  branch.  Things always tend to creep in.
>>>>> +1
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>