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From Jeff Genender <jgenen...@savoirtech.com>
Subject Re: Monday Checkpoint re M5 Cut (Was Re: [VOTE]Re: M5 Cut proposal date)
Date Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:23:19 GMT
Ok...9/16 then...but this is now 4 days warning.  9/16 needs to be it 
(yes I know...someone needs to be the bad cop). ;-)

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> The count was :
> 
> 9/9 : Jacek, Joe (non committer), Bruce, Geir, Dain, David B, Jeff
> 9/16 : Alan, Gianny,
> 
> with David J then suggesting on friday (9/9) that given the state of  
> things, we wait until monday (today, 9/12) and re-evaluate.
> 
> It seems like we're making great progress, but still not there yet as  
> of now - we need to fix the regressions so we don't have to fix the  
> code in two places (which is probably what bit us from M4).
> 
> Maybe your 9/16 will be it after all :)
> 
> geir
> 
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> 
>> I thought we were going to cut on 9/16
>>
>> On 9/12/2005 4:15 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think today will be it ;-)
>>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> So, where do we think we are today?
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:39 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think we've made significant progress in the last week  towards  
>>>>> being ready to make the branch for M5, but I think  there may be  
>>>>> reasons to wait a couple more days.  There are 2  features that  
>>>>> people want to get in (security improvements and  DDL generation)  
>>>>> that I would like to see in M5, and more  stabilization is needed 
>>>>> in  any case before the release.  I  think that unless someone is  
>>>>> waiting to get a new feature in  that shouldn't go in M5 we should  
>>>>> wait until monday and see  where we are.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is contemplating a commit that may destabilize our  code  
>>>>> please speak up so we can branch beforehand.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok ...I am hijacking this thread... enough discussion...lets  
>>>>>> vote  on it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>>>>> [ ] I think it should be after Friday...and should be on ______
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me:
>>>>>> [X] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Blevins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     What is the point of the "frozen list"?  At this
point,  
>>>>>>>>> it   doesn't appear to have stopped development of things
 
>>>>>>>>> that  aren't  on the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The list for what we are agreeing to go into M5.  If  
>>>>>>>> something   isn't on the list and its an added bonus, then
 
>>>>>>>> fine.  We need a   closure date at this point.  I think we
 have 
>>>>>>>> all agreed what is   minimally in the cut.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Maybe we should make the branch like Friday, so any
 code  
>>>>>>>>> not on
>>>>>>>>> the list has to go into HEAD, and just have a longer
 closing   
>>>>>>>>> period to
>>>>>>>>> resolve the list items.  There is a lot on the list,
so  that  
>>>>>>>>> would  mean a
>>>>>>>>> lot of merges to HEAD, but unless everyone is willing
to  hold  
>>>>>>>>> off on
>>>>>>>>> non-list items, I'm not sure we're actually moving toward
  
>>>>>>>>> greater  stability in the mean time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok..shall we branch on Friday?  Anhyone have any issues with
  
>>>>>>>> this?   I am game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Friday is great.  Aaron expressed the same concern I was   
>>>>>>> thinking  about; getting further and further from stable the
 
>>>>>>> long  we wait to  branch.  Things always tend to creep in.
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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