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From Jeff Genender <jgenen...@savoirtech.com>
Subject Re: Monday Checkpoint re M5 Cut (Was Re: [VOTE]Re: M5 Cut proposal date)
Date Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:15:25 GMT
I think today will be it ;-)

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> So, where do we think we are today?
> 
> geir
> 
> On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:39 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> 
>> I think we've made significant progress in the last week towards  
>> being ready to make the branch for M5, but I think there may be  
>> reasons to wait a couple more days.  There are 2 features that  people 
>> want to get in (security improvements and DDL generation)  that I 
>> would like to see in M5, and more stabilization is needed in  any case 
>> before the release.  I think that unless someone is  waiting to get a 
>> new feature in that shouldn't go in M5 we should  wait until monday 
>> and see where we are.
>>
>> If anyone is contemplating a commit that may destabilize our code  
>> please speak up so we can branch beforehand.
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ok ...I am hijacking this thread... enough discussion...lets vote  on 
>>> it...
>>>
>>> [ ] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>> [ ] I think it should be after Friday...and should be on ______
>>>
>>>
>>> For me:
>>> [X] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
>>>
>>>
>>> David Blevins wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is the point of the "frozen list"?  At this point, it  

>>>>>> doesn't appear to have stopped development of things that  aren't
 
>>>>>> on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The list for what we are agreeing to go into M5.  If something   
>>>>> isn't on the list and its an added bonus, then fine.  We need a   
>>>>> closure date at this point.  I think we have all agreed what is   
>>>>> minimally in the cut.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Maybe we should make the branch like Friday, so any code  not
on
>>>>>> the list has to go into HEAD, and just have a longer closing   
>>>>>> period to
>>>>>> resolve the list items.  There is a lot on the list, so that  
>>>>>> would  mean a
>>>>>> lot of merges to HEAD, but unless everyone is willing to hold  off
on
>>>>>> non-list items, I'm not sure we're actually moving toward  
>>>>>> greater  stability in the mean time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok..shall we branch on Friday?  Anhyone have any issues with  
>>>>> this?   I am game.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Friday is great.  Aaron expressed the same concern I was  thinking  
>>>> about; getting further and further from stable the long  we wait to  
>>>> branch.  Things always tend to creep in.
>>>> +1
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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