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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: [vote] PMC to accept DayTrader contribution and/or/not create "application" subproject
Date Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:13:24 GMT
My concern is primarily with  the geronimo plan.  While presumably the 
app itself isn't going to need to change to be deployed to other app 
servers, I expect each server to need a separate plan.  I was thinking 
we'd keep the app and geronimo plan together in synch with the geronimo 
version.  Obviously this is not ideal, but I haven't thought of a 
better solution.  Maybe have the app separate and a module in 
geronimo/apps to build a configuration for the current geronimo 

david jencks

On Sep 20, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> I'm just curious what people expect to happen here.    I'm happy to go 
> with the flow, but at least want to understand the flow.
> DayTrader is an application that is used as a performance tool for any 
> J2EE server, so it's not Geronimo only. (Contrast that with the 
> console, as an example.)  It makes little sense to me to tie it to 
> Geronimo releases no matter what the stability of Geronimo.  We can 
> use it to measure Geronimo against other servers, and should use it 
> daily to ensure that we don't regress performance-wise.  To do that, I 
> think we'd want to have a released version of it, so we could at 
> compare apples to apples.  The tools can't vary freely and randomly 
> with the code we're trying to test....   Matt would have a better 
> perspective, I guess.
> Instead of a new subproject, which people seem to find a bad idea for 
> reasons I don't grok - as it's just out of SVN trunk, has separate 
> release cycles from G server, and has some mention on the website - 
> how about at least putting it into devtools?  Can we avoid adding to 
> the clutter of trunk, something we seemed to support earlier today?
> geir
> On Sep 20, 2005, at 8:48 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>> +1  Accept the DayTrader donation into the project
>> -1  Do not create Applications subproject.  Leave in trunk.
>> On Sep 20, 2005, at 4:28 PM, John Sisson wrote:
>> > (Keep it simple for now.  Review this later when Geronimo is more 
>> stable.  I think
>> > it is too early to try to have applications with their own release 
>> cycle)
>> Well put.
>> -David
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437

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