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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [discuss] Eclipse as a Geronimo sub-project
Date Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:22:44 GMT
the patch delay today is my fault. I was buried in meetings all day.

I'm trying to get to it now...

But, yes, I agree with you, obviously - I just wanted to give Sachin  
hope about his patches.

geir

On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:19 PM, David Jencks wrote:

> I think we should make a tools subdirectory with eclipse  as its  
> first member and give at least sachin commit for it.  AFAICT no one  
> is keeping up with his patch stream.  I think the intent should be  
> for separate release cycle and that we can work out exactly how to  
> do that later.  I don't want to discourage active participants by a  
> long patch delay.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>
>> Yes, it certainly can.   But one thing we're trying to do is build  
>> a like-minded community of tools people.   We did something like  
>> this very effectively (IMO) at Velocity, making it separate and  
>> letting them setup things like web content, build structure,  
>> packaging, releases, etc.
>>
>> What's the downside to starting to bucket functionality this way?   
>> What bad things could happen if we made a subdirectory for  
>> tooling, letting it be a separate build (and release cycle), and  
>> having a subpage on the website behind a left-nav item?
>>
>> geir
>>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It can go into a tools directory, just like we have a modules  
>>> directory.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 8/23/2005 4:34 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tooling is one of our major initiatives to "knock the corners  
>>>> off".   How do you integrate an eclipse plug in directly in  
>>>> Geroniomo?  It's  for Eclipse, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> I think it just makes sense to have a subproject on tooling,  
>>>> and  start producing releases independently...  I agree that  
>>>> Eclipse is  too small by itself (as I noted in a previous  
>>>> email), but general  tool isn't, and the eclipse plug in is an  
>>>> excellent start....
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 23, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dain Sundstrom wrote, On 8/22/2005 9:14 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we now have a subproject policy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts on taking the IBM eclipse tooling contribution 

>>>>>>> as a   subproject?  It's independent, has interested people 

>>>>>>> that are   annoying us with patches :) adds value to the  
>>>>>>> project and grows  the  community in a technically diverse  
>>>>>>> way,  and has a plausible  roadmap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would suggest that if we do so, we'd move the current code
  
>>>>>>> from  sandbox and add Sachin Patel as a committer for the   
>>>>>>> subproject.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a sensitive issue because of there's a person  
>>>>>>> involved,  so  if anyone has any issues that need to be  
>>>>>>> discussed  confidentially,  please feel free to post to   
>>>>>>> pmc@geronimo.apache.org, or mail to me  or another PMC member.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is a bit premature to make this a full fledged    
>>>>>> subproject.  I personally don't use eclipse so I don't know if  
>>>>>> it   builds, or is what users want.  For now, I think the  
>>>>>> sandbox is   appropriate place to incubate the code and  
>>>>>> community.   We need to  be  careful when creating  
>>>>>> subprojects, so we don't end up with  lots of  abandoned  
>>>>>> codebases.  I guessing this will happen quickly  for the   
>>>>>> eclipse plugin given how many eclipse users there are out   
>>>>>> there and  we will be better off for waiting a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree.  I think that this is a bit premature to make this a  
>>>>> full  fledged subproject.  This should start in the sandbox  
>>>>> with the idea  that it be integrated directly into Geronimo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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