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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <>
Subject Re: Questions about CORBA: GNU Classpath?
Date Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:25:11 GMT

On Aug 9, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Meskauskas Audrius wrote:

> In principle the license and goals are stated on our website:
> In theory there should be no persuading needed since the Apache  
> hackers
> have already said that they would like to use GNU Classpath as core
> library for the Harmony initiative and that the license is in  
> principle
> not a problem for adoption.

The license currently is a problem.  However, we're trying to not let  
that stop us.

> The main thing holding things back is that
> you need more then just the core class libraries for building a full
> free j2se replacement. See Apache incubator for details about
> the Harmony project.

I'm familiar with it :)

> The GNU Classpath licensing exception is not a nonsense; due this  
> single sentence in the header I have got to write
> currently 851 CORBA class from scratch in spite of the existence of  
> the
> LGPL-licensed JackORB and Jonathan, as the licensing differences
> are too dramatic.
> This is because exception eliminates the pressure to release the  
> closely
> interacting code under GPL or LGPL, opening way for much more  
> solutions and
> making the whole spirit of the license maybe even closer to Apache  
> than
> to original GPL.
> If you think that accepting Classpath it is a very responsible  
> decission, for you, I would like you to suggest to contact Cliff  
> Schmidt at
> Cliff has spoken at lenght about legal/license issues with FSF  
> legal people and knows what the intentions and goals are of our  
> licenses.

Thx - we'll certainly be watching carefully to see how those  
discussions develop.


> With respect
> Audrius Meskauskas.
> Jeff Genender wrote:
>> Meskauskas,
>> Thanks for offering this up.  But I *think*, and I can easily be  
>> corrected, the licensing is the issue.  For our initial  
>> implementation, I believe we must have software that is compatible  
>> with the Apache license and IIUC, GNU classpath is GPL.
>> Jeff
>> Meskauskas Audrius wrote:
>>> Jacek>I wonder what options do we have to use as a CORBA  
>>> implementation in
>>> Jacek>Geronimo (as a ASF project). I'm not familiar with the  
>>> nuances of
>>> Jacek>miscellaneous licenses, but unless I'm mistaken we don't  
>>> have too much
>>> Jacek>choices - Sun's ORB or OpenORB, right? Again, unless I'm  
>>> mistaken if I
>>> Jacek>were to be asked I'd say we ain't too happy with both, but  
>>> couldn't say
>>> Jacek>why :( Wiki is silent on this, too.
>>> Jacek>Yes, I'm lost and asking for a help - could anyone answer  
>>> where we are
>>> Jacek>with the CORBA stuff?
>>> A very serious work is already done writing GNU Classpath CORBA  
>>> implementation.

Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437

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