Does anyone else have any comments or objections before we go down
this path?
geir
On Aug 1, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Sachin Patel wrote:
> Great. I assuming no one else has any strong objections. If not,
> I'll be glad to start driving this. I'm not sure about the
> licensing issues... I'll shoot of a note to the eclipse folks.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> I think it would be great to have it here.
>>
>> Question - we would need to have it re-licensed under the Apache
>> License v2.0. Is that possible?
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Sachin Patel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> It seems as if a decision needs to be made to determine the
>>> appropiate place to host the Eclipse tooling support for
>>> Geronimo, in particular the Geronimo Server Adapter that is
>>> currently in development in the Eclipse - WTP project.
>>>
>>> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-gerplug/
>>>
>>> As I've made enhancements to this Geronimo tooling support, I've
>>> been forced to pull in Geronimo runtime dependencies, for access
>>> not only to the Geronimo runtime itself but to JEE spec jars.
>>>
>>> Discussions have arose as I've been working with the Eclipse WTP
>>> team to push these changes in. It is their belief that if this
>>> server adapter is pulling in third party jars then it falls
>>> under the category of being a full-fledged adapter that is too
>>> large to host and be a part of WTP. The existing adapters for
>>> the other application servers that are included in WTP are
>>> lightweight and serve primarily as examples for basic support.
>>> There has been some discussion planning to provide the JMX jars
>>> and a set of utilties as part of WTP that other server adapters
>>> can exploit. However this is not expected until WTP 1.5 in June
>>> 06 at the earliest. This is not good for the Geronimo
>>> community. We need an immediate place to host this source so
>>> the community can have the latest source to start using, opening
>>> bugs and feature requests, and contributing to it. As everyone
>>> works hard toward the completion of the Geronimo's first release
>>> it would be great if we had a good start for tooling support to
>>> go along with 1.0.
>>>
>>> So the first decision we need to come to is where should this be
>>> hosted? The first option is creating a sourceforge project and
>>> build a secondary community around it. The other, is to host on
>>> Apache itself as part of the Geronimo project. The latter I
>>> feel is a much better option as by simply including it as part
>>> of the Geronimo project itself, it provides a much stronger
>>> integration statement to the existing community. So the Apache
>>> Geronimo project would include not only the development of
>>> server itself but also the tooling that goes along with it.
>>>
>>> So the proposal is that we create a seperate branch for tooling
>>> in subversion and host the source there. The next step would be
>>> to provide the build and packaging infrastructure to go around
>>> it and to be able to pull down dependencies to build which
>>> include Eclipse, WTP, and of course the Geronimo runtime itself.
>>>
>>> Thoughts, objections, comments???
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Sachin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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