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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Does J2EE 1.5/5.0 include JBI?
Date Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:27:42 GMT

Sorry to bring this up again, i just got a bit of breathing room and
want to put this to bed. (I don't want anyone to tell me later "why
did you not speak up earlier?")

Can we please "plan" in public? I don't see any emails in the pmc@ or
on dev@ proposing that we do this formally or "planning" about doing
this. Could we talk about it here? Could you please drive the public
decision making process?. My concern is that there not even a single
line of code in Geronimo (or Apache for that matter) that implements
JBI and we are trying to do this without any input at all from anyone.
I did see the thread where you asked about TCK for JBI
and James' reply that it is an optional module
So i don't really see why we should be going out of the way to do
this. If we do, should we start working with everyone else and start
verifying them as well? (For example, ebXMLrr in - has JAXR stuff). At the least we
should have a policy about when we go out of the way to certify
something that is not in the core. (for example ActiveMQ is fine
because J2EE TCK tests it and we don't have to get another TCK for


On 7/26/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 10:58 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Does anyone know if the J2EE 1.5 (now called 5.0) include JBI?
> >
> No, it doesn't.
> > Quote from
> > "Am looking forward to it passing the JBI TCK through the Geronimo
> > project."
> >
> The plan was to test Apache Geronimo with a JBI module backed by
> ServiceMix and certify *that*.  Geronimo would be certified, not
> ServiceMix.
> geir
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437

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