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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: M5 Time ;-)
Date Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:03:52 GMT

On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> On Aug 25, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>
>> On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> David Blevins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We've shipped four non-certified Jetty distributions, let's go  
>>>>> ahead  with a Tomcat distribution in the same vein.  If we need  
>>>>> to go over  some J2EE licensing requirements, let's do it on  
>>>>> the TCK list.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When we did that we only released one binary so there was no  
>>>> ambiguity in the release. If the Jetty version of M5 is  
>>>> certified and the Tomcat version isn't, it will be misleading to  
>>>> users.
>>>>
>>>> -1 on any M5 binary that is not certified.
>>>>
>>>
>>> IIRC a release can not be vetoed except for a technical reason,  
>>> so this is a -1 opinion and not a official veto.
>>>
>>
>> Sorta - we do have an issue that other projects don't have, which  
>> is explicit or implicit statements about compatibility.  IOW,  
>> there's a legal issue here.  But lets park this for now as we  
>> don't have enough information, so we don't even know if we have a  
>> problem.
>>
>> So what do you think about the issue itself?  Do you want to see a  
>> certified distro w/ Tomcat?
>>
>
> I have a pragmatic view on this.  I would like to there to be a  
> certified Tomcat M5, but if it isn't going to happen anytime soon,  
> I personally would rather ship M5 and shoot for Tomcat  
> certification in M6.  Legally we can choose to ship uncertified non- 
> GA release.  No matter if a release is certified or not, the  
> Geronimo project needs to be crystal clear about the certification  
> status of any binary we distribute.

Indeed.

>
>
>> I personally feel that having tomcat as a certified, first-class  
>> citizen is important and good for us.  The only question I see is  
>> what certifying w/ Tomcat does to our M5 timeline, and I don't  
>> think we have enough information to decide either way at this point.
>>
>
> Tomcat is a first-class citizen and is important to us.  If turns  
> out that we are unable to certify it in a reasonable time that  
> would be unfortunate, and we would have to decide how to deal with  
> that.
>

Yep

>
>> I'm hoping Jeff (or anyone else) can run the TCK on Tomcat to see  
>> where we are, and then decide from there.
>>
>
> +1
>

I'll see your +1 and raise you one...

geir


> -dain
>
>

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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