Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 73412 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 02:10:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 02:10:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 47644 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 02:10:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 47617 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 02:10:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 47602 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jul 2005 02:10:15 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:10:14 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [66.250.40.202] (HELO saturn.opentools.org) (66.250.40.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:10:12 -0700 Received: by saturn.opentools.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 025933F6D; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.opentools.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EF4F357 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:13:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mulder X-X-Sender: ammulder@saturn.opentools.org To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Donations & Policies Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Okay, it seems I was was under the mistaken impression that everyone on the CORBA call wanted the TriFork code to come to a Geronimo "sandbox area", whereas in fact some people want it to go to the incubator. I think that's totally acceptable, and I'm sorry I didn't walk away from the call with a clear picture of what people want. After giving the whole issue some more thought, I think I would prefer the TriFork code go to the incubator. I'm fine going either way with the web console (incubator or "sandbox area" with own ACL). I guess that means that if we need a single policy/guideline, I'd lean toward the incubator. Part of the thinking that went into this was I considered the possible donation of an EJB container, web container, JMS broker, etc. All of those are pieces of every J2EE servers, and we've seen at least one J2EE vendor willing to make donations. I don't really think it would be appropriate to bring one of those components I just listed directly into a Geronimo sandbox. We are already using high-quality open source projects in each of those areas, and they're good at what they do, and I don't want to insult them or ourselves be on the hook to support and maintain those features. There are other smaller components we might accept into Geronimo without conflicting, but I don't think we should base our policy/guidelines on those. Thanks, Aaron