Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91344 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 23:06:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 23:06:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 40168 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2005 23:06:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 40133 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2005 23:06:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 40119 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jul 2005 23:06:32 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:06:32 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [66.250.40.202] (HELO saturn.opentools.org) (66.250.40.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:06:33 -0700 Received: by saturn.opentools.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0E7493E76; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.opentools.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DF0F34B for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:08:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mulder X-X-Sender: ammulder@saturn.opentools.org To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Project Dependencies: TranQL & maybe someday GBean.org In-Reply-To: <42CB0ABF.6050507@apache.org> Message-ID: References: <20050704212155.GD18287@django> <42C9D2CC.80306@apache.org> <20050705012722.GA18701@django> <42C9E48F.30803@apache.org> <20050705021534.GA18755@django> <20050705024643.GC18794@django> <42C9FF8A.70008@apache.org> <42CAB15D.5020308@apache.org> <42CB0ABF.6050507@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Changing the subject since we're drifting again. This is related to another issue that's come up off-list, but we may as well open it to a broader discussion here. On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > TranQL is a Codehaus project so it is down to the despots, currently me. > The barrier to entry is not high but so far I've not seen anything > except that problematic patch. Okay. Well, without getting into specifics, I'm not real comfortable with Geronimo being heavily dependent on a Codehaus project with precisely one, er, despot. I feel the same about the GBean.org kernel, which while not currently a part of Geronimo, will likely be a candidate for it (and this of course is one of the issues around it). Jeremy, would you consider either substantially enlarging the community of despots for TranQL, bringing it to Apache, or merging it into OpenEJB? Dain, would you consider either substantially enlarging the community of despots for GBean.org, bringing it to Apache, or merging it into Geronimo (as a branch or sandbox module for the present, I presume)? Thanks, Aaron