Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 32122 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 15:43:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 15:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5064 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 15:43:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 5035 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 15:43:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 5020 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jul 2005 15:43:13 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:43:13 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [128.241.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (128.241.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:43:11 -0700 Received: (qmail 19035 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 15:43:10 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?10.0.1.18?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 15:43:10 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <42D33169.9080503@toolazydogs.com> References: <3FD9DE78-7281-4086-8055-F584CCAD9044@apache.org> <42D33169.9080503@toolazydogs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: Donations & Policies Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:43:20 -0400 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Jul 11, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > I think that we should have a single simple process. > All vendors must propose the code donation to the community. > Embarrassing denials can be averted by creating a gmail account and > asking if people are interested in technology X going into Geronimo. s/vendors/contributors/ Also, anyone can approach the PMC privately on pmc@geronimo.apache.org if they wish to discuss a contribution before- hand. I see nothing wrong with that, and yes, if satisfied, we then ask the contributor to propose directly to the community on dev@ > > All code donations go into > > /geronimo/incubator/donationx/* > > The contributors would get restricted committer access to their > project; granting committer access gives us better visibility how > well the person works in a community setting. They and, hopefully > Geronimo committers, would whip it into shape. The community would > provide guidance and, hopefully, vote it into Geronimo once its > ready and all the appropriate paper work was obtained. > The "probationary" committers would, hopefully, get voted into > Geronimo, regardless of their projects status. I have never heard > of a motivated developer not getting committer access. > I'd like to propose a slight modification. That we give them committer access w/o a formal, restricted ACL, but a clear understanding that there's a place where they are bring brought in to work, and if they wish to participate elsewhere, they do so via standard engagement of working with others, learning about the area, proposing changes on dev@ etc, until they and others are comfortable, etc. Any change can be vetoed, and any change can be rolled back. I think we should assume a level of trust, and if broken, commit priv can be revoked. Just consider for a little while. I believe that this won't be a popular suggestion, but the risk is small, and the upside great, it keeps things simple, and I believe leads to a more unified, richer community. :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 geirm@apache.org