Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 17741 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2005 20:52:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 2005 20:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 81254 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2005 20:52:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 81216 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2005 20:52:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 81203 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jul 2005 20:52:20 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:52:20 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [128.241.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (128.241.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:52:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 1347 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2005 20:52:17 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?10.0.1.46?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2005 20:52:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <07EA985A-5591-4E48-B06D-0B711EC628D5@iq80.com> References: <20050725154719.46421.qmail@minotaur.apache.org> <07EA985A-5591-4E48-B06D-0B711EC628D5@iq80.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: svn commit: r225141 - in /geronimo/site: docs/guidelines.html xdocs/guidelines.xml Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:52:17 -0400 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Jul 25, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > >> On Jul 25, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: >> >> >>> I think we should start with guidelines that are from a project >>> that is in a much earlier stage of development. These guidelines >>> work well for httpd since it is such a stable code base, but I >>> believe unworkable for us. Are there other project guidelines we >>> can start with? Perhaps incubator, jakarta, or web-services? >>> >>> >> >> It's not clear that Incubator's rules are relevant, as they are >> for a really different kind of project. (I'm guessing, as I didn't >> go look...) >> >> As for the others, they are probably derived from httpd in some way. >> >> What aspects do you feel are unworkable for us? Lets just fix >> those bugs that you see. >> > > Can we delay this until after OSCon? I would like to work on M4 > 100% this week and then relax at OSCon next week. If this is > really important, I guess we can work on it now, but I get the > feeling the community wants M4 asap :) I wasn't interested in forcing anything through, just getting a discussion going. If you have no problem with me at least pushing to the public site, we can ponder as we need to. > > In the mean time I think it would be helpful if you could point the > community at the guidelines used by the different projects at the > ASF. I think a bit of background reading over the next two weeks > will make this discussion move much easier. I also request that > until we discuss and vote on the guidelines we remove them from our > website; I don't want to create any confusion. The guidelines are clearly marked as "PROPOSED" on the page, under a "Proposed" section of the left side menu. Does that sufficiently address that concern? geir > > BTW, I definitely think this is useful for the project, and I am > not attempting to kill this idea. I just want everyone to have the > bandwidth to participate. > > -dain > > -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 geirm@apache.org