Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 68621 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 22:03:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 22:03:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 43663 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2005 22:03:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 43631 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2005 22:03:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 43618 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jul 2005 22:03:12 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:03:12 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [155.208.255.36] (HELO grerelbul01.net.external.hp.com) (155.208.255.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:03:12 -0700 Received: from vistula.poland.hp.com (vistula.poland.hp.com [15.188.0.12]) by grerelbul01.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2238269 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([16.19.170.32]) by vistula.poland.hp.com with SMTP (8.9.3 (PHNE_28760_binary)/8.8.6 SMKit7.02) id AAA03556 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:03:04 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <42CB0389.8030604@apache.org> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:02:49 +0200 From: Jacek Laskowski Organization: Apache Geronimo (http://geronimo.apache.org) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Inclusion in m4? References: <6d3daaf262f54d9bb4aff67ae969feea@yahoo.com> <42CACAF8.2030301@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <42CACAF8.2030301@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jeremy Boynes wrote: > I think it is very important we DON'T repeat what happened with M3 where > a lot of stuff got added at the last minute and a couple of things > broke. I know we will be doing more testing this time but every new > feature increases the risk of something slipping through. > > If the xmlbeans stuff is transparent (does not require code changes in > Geronimo) so that this is basically a dependency version update then > that seems ok; if there are a lot of changes needed to the Geronimo code > then I would suggest this should just go into the trunk. I second Jeremy's points. It seems that we won't release any M4 in a near future unless we stop adding more and more features/bug fixes/enhancements. Bugs shall be fixed, so no talk about it, but I'd say that features will only be included until the M4 branch is created. Provided Dave didn't slow down with his coding, I'd bet he'll add either and probably some more ;) > Jeremy Jacek