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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <l...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: Is it a mountain? (Re: Donation of Admin Console- request for help)
Date Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:06:39 GMT
Yes, that was already discussed.  But, given your previous statement, I 
can see how he misunderstood.

Davanum Srinivas wrote, On 7/12/2005 1:59 PM:

>PMC's can maintain separate ACL's for each svn thingy. Get them to
>become Apache committers, setup a separate svn area for them to work.
>Then VOTE them into regular geronimo project when you think they are
>ready (each person on their merit).
>
>-- dims
>
>On 7/12/05, Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
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>>        I'm sorry, I don't agree that donating code should entitle a
>>company to nominate committers.  Even separating the issue of donating
>>code, I don't like adding committers when we don't know them, aren't
>>familiar with their work, etc.  I think it will be hard to convince me
>>otherwise, but I am known to be conservative in this regard.  :)
>>
>>        Given the above, I prefer the incubator because we can all get to
>>know each other there, the people who know the code can have immediate
>>commit on the code (as can interested Geronimo folks), we can start
>>working and evaluate the donation before deciding where it belongs
>>long-term, etc.  It would be slightly more difficult to integrate with
>>Geronimo for testing purposes, but we face similar issues with OpenEJB and
>>TranQL already.  On this, I am willing to be convinced that some kind of
>>Geronimo sub-area is best, but I think the incubator is better as a
>>general rule.
>>
>>        As for why we need general rules, I don't fancy having this
>>extended dialogue every time there's a donation on the table.  I used to
>>think we wouldn't have that many donations, but after 2 in the last month,
>>I'm not so sure.
>>
>>        And, of course, I support David J's statement of mentoring
>>principles and so on.
>>
>>Aaron
>>
>>On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
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>>
>>>+1 to accept both the console and trifork code. Let Geir worry about
>>>paperwork. (Ask for a software grant from both companies such that we
>>>can place the code in our SVN.)
>>>+1 to accept new folks from these contrib as "regular" committers (we
>>>can have a public vote once we get list of people from these 2
>>>companies)
>>>
>>>Why is this so difficult?
>>>
>>>-- dims
>>>
>>>On 7/12/05, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>After rereading this entire discussion, I'm still not sure that we've
>>>>provided the requested guidance to the original reqeust that started
>>>>this thread. What's more, given the debate that has taken place, I'm
>>>>not sure that there's a consensus in any one direction. So I've got a
>>>>couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>>1) Is this the same management console that I downloaded from Gluecode
>>>>as the Joe evaluation licensed product?
>>>>
>>>>2) Will the management console come straight to Geronimo or go through
>>>>the Incubator?
>>>>
>>>>One additional suggestion on the table seemed to surround the
>>>>establishment of policies surrounding code donation. I'm not clear on
>>>>why some people feel that policies need to be established. Why are
>>>>people so hung up on establishing policies for so many things? IMO,
>>>>rules for rules sake is just silly. I think we need to test the waters
>>>>with some code donations before we go so far as to establish policies
>>>>and precedents. Let's please crawl before we walk.
>>>>
>>>>Bruce
>>>>--
>>>>perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>>>>);'
>>>>
>>>>The Castor Project
>>>>http://www.castor.org/
>>>>
>>>>Apache Geronimo
>>>>http://geronimo.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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