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From Jeremy Boynes <>
Subject Re: Unified Tomcat/Jetty Plans
Date Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:07:15 GMT
So let me get this right ...

* announce to the world we pass the CTS tests and put out an unstable
* just when people are looking at the project, change the deployment
   plans in an incompatible way
* don't provide any upgrade tool, just tell users they need
   to edit all their existing plans
* tell them this is a *good* thing because we're going to keep
   changing things until 1.0 finally comes out

And this is somehow supposed to encourage people to use this software?

Aaron, I appreciate what you are trying to do. Please go the extra mile 
and make sure existing plans continue to work - it is not hard to do and 
will avoid putting off a lot of potential users.


Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> +100000000 before we release 1.0 is the exactly when we should be  
> encouraging this type of drastic change.  After 1.0 comes out, I  doubt 
> we will be able to make these type of changes until 2.0.  I  think we 
> should review all of our configuration files and make  
> usability/consistency changes before we even consider a 1.0.
> -dain
> On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>>> Won't this cause a problem for users, having to modify all existing
>>> plans to accomodate this change?
>>     Sure.  But we've already agreed on the need for a single web
>> deployment format, and I don't think it makes sense to support 3  formats
>> to try to ease transition.  This is one of many configuration  changes 
>> that
>> will be necessary in moving from Milestone 3 to Milestone 4.   
>> Hopefully we
>> can minimize this kind of thing moving forward into more stable  
>> releases,
>> but I'm not sure we're entirely there yet.
>>     I'll make sure the Wiki docs are up to date.
>> Aaron

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