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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is it a mountain? (Re: Donation of Admin Console- request for help)
Date Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:10:04 GMT
Aaron,

I have gotten quite a few projects processed thru incubator...so
please follow my advice :)

-- dims

On 7/12/05, Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > PMC's can maintain separate ACL's for each svn thingy. Get them to
> > become Apache committers, setup a separate svn area for them to work.
> > Then VOTE them into regular geronimo project when you think they are
> > ready (each person on their merit).
> 
>         Sorry, I must have misunderstood your previous line '+1 to accept
> new folks from these contrib as "regular" committers' -- I thought by
> "regular" you meant "completely unrestricted".
> 
>         I am OK with what you state above, though I still prefer the
> incubator.
> 
> Aaroon
> 
> > On 7/12/05, Aaron Mulder <ammulder@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > >         I'm sorry, I don't agree that donating code should entitle a
> > > company to nominate committers.  Even separating the issue of donating
> > > code, I don't like adding committers when we don't know them, aren't
> > > familiar with their work, etc.  I think it will be hard to convince me
> > > otherwise, but I am known to be conservative in this regard.  :)
> > >
> > >         Given the above, I prefer the incubator because we can all get to
> > > know each other there, the people who know the code can have immediate
> > > commit on the code (as can interested Geronimo folks), we can start
> > > working and evaluate the donation before deciding where it belongs
> > > long-term, etc.  It would be slightly more difficult to integrate with
> > > Geronimo for testing purposes, but we face similar issues with OpenEJB and
> > > TranQL already.  On this, I am willing to be convinced that some kind of
> > > Geronimo sub-area is best, but I think the incubator is better as a
> > > general rule.
> > >
> > >         As for why we need general rules, I don't fancy having this
> > > extended dialogue every time there's a donation on the table.  I used to
> > > think we wouldn't have that many donations, but after 2 in the last month,
> > > I'm not so sure.
> > >
> > >         And, of course, I support David J's statement of mentoring
> > > principles and so on.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > > > +1 to accept both the console and trifork code. Let Geir worry about
> > > > paperwork. (Ask for a software grant from both companies such that we
> > > > can place the code in our SVN.)
> > > > +1 to accept new folks from these contrib as "regular" committers (we
> > > > can have a public vote once we get list of people from these 2
> > > > companies)
> > > >
> > > > Why is this so difficult?
> > > >
> > > > -- dims
> > > >
> > > > On 7/12/05, Bruce Snyder <bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > After rereading this entire discussion, I'm still not sure that we've
> > > > > provided the requested guidance to the original reqeust that started
> > > > > this thread. What's more, given the debate that has taken place,
I'm
> > > > > not sure that there's a consensus in any one direction. So I've got
a
> > > > > couple of questions:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Is this the same management console that I downloaded from Gluecode
> > > > > as the Joe evaluation licensed product?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Will the management console come straight to Geronimo or go through
> > > > > the Incubator?
> > > > >
> > > > > One additional suggestion on the table seemed to surround the
> > > > > establishment of policies surrounding code donation. I'm not clear
on
> > > > > why some people feel that policies need to be established. Why are
> > > > > people so hung up on establishing policies for so many things? IMO,
> > > > > rules for rules sake is just silly. I think we need to test the waters
> > > > > with some code donations before we go so far as to establish policies
> > > > > and precedents. Let's please crawl before we walk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > > --
> > > > > perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > );'
> > > > >
> > > > > The Castor Project
> > > > > http://www.castor.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache Geronimo
> > > > > http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
> >
> 


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Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/

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