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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Donations & Policies
Date Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:36:56 GMT
+1  ("superb support and mentoring for our new members and left
the questions of what to do if we fail to such time as it might be

-- dims

On 7/12/05, David Jencks <> wrote:
> In order to avoid mile-long emails I'm starting over.
> I think our overall goal is to strengthen the geronimo community by
> bringing in new developers and code that we as well as they want to
> work on.
> This process is likely to be more work for us than the new developers,
> since they  already know their code very well, whereas we need to learn
> their code and more importantly mentor them into being part of the
> geronimo community.  Therefore, we need to put together a process that
> involves the least work for us, and we need to commit the time needed
> to be good mentors.  To me, this means that the new people need to be
> given commit access to at least their donated code, since we simply
> won't have time to review all the patches that are likely to result
> otherwise, and the svn structure needs to be set up for minimal
> nuisance/simplest builds.  I think the last would be best with the new
> code going somewhere in the geronimo/trunk tree: although svn tricks
> are certainly possible to pull it in from elsewhere in apache svn, this
> would add some complexity for no gain I can see.
> I also think it is important to publish a process for donations, so we
> don't spend weeks discussing this every time someone offers something,
> and so potential donors know what to expect and dont get the idea that
> we are playing favorites.  If we run into problems, we can certainly
> update the process.
> I'd like to reemphasize that bringing in new committers with their code
> is going to be a lot of work for the existing community.  If we fail to
> integrate a donation a very large part of the responsibility rests with
> us for not having good enough community skills to work with the
> newcomers.  It seems to me that discussions about limited commit
> access/ acls/ etc are fundamentally discussions about what happens if
> we fail.  I wonder what would happen if we instead discussed how we
> will provide superb support and mentoring for our new members and left
> the questions of what to do if we fail to such time as it might be
> needed.
> thanks
> david jencks

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