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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Close to completion? (Re: Is it a mountain? (Re: Donation of Admin Console- request for help))
Date Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:01:41 GMT

On Jul 12, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:

> 1) -1.  Guidelines are good, policy can be bad.

yes - guidelines captures what I meant.  (I think of policy being the  
same, but I can see how others don't...)


> 2a) IMHO...This will be hard to guage and form metrics.  This is
> subjective...since I think quality of participation plays to a certain
> degree.  Is this necessary?  Can't we continue as we have (or has this
> proven to be negative)?

I'd prefer to have a set of guidelines to make it clear to everyone  
how we operate, and limit the chance that either we play favorites,  
or are accused of doing so.

>
> 2b) +1 for "bring into SVN, grant restricted status to some # of  
> people"
> because obviously it needs to be worked on by the authors to a certain
> degree.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:42 PM
> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
> Subject: Close to completion? (Re: Is it a mountain? (Re: Donation  
> of Admin
> Console- request for help))
>
> Lets start a new thread tomorrow, finish discussion since I suspect  
> that all
> that will say their peace have done so, and work out a vote?
>
> I suspect we need to decide :
>
> 1) do we need to have any policy?
>
> 2) If so, decide the
>
>    a) general committer acceptance policy/guidelines to define some
>       sensible, fair, transparent metrics for accepting a committer
>       such as
>        - how long a person must commit patches
>        - how long participate on the mailing lists
>
>    b) general code acceptance policy (what we have been discussing  
> here)
>       where the options include
>        - bring into SVN, grant committer status to some # of people
>        - bring into SVN, grant restricted status to some # of people
>        - bring into SVN, follow a) above for people
>        - none of the above
>
> I think that "bring to incubator" is not in scope for this vote, as  
> it's a
> tool we already have now - we can always do that and decide to  
> sponsor or
> just participate, but at the end of that process, then the code  
> contribution
> b) rules should apply.
>
> geir
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
>
>>     Well, I was going to start a new thread, but it seems Alan  
>> doesn't
>> like that, so...
>>
>>     Would it be accurate to say that the options on the table for
>> donated code are:
>>
>> 1) Bring (project X) to geronimo, grant full commit status to (some
>> number of people) who have worked with the code before
>>
>> 2) Bring project X to geronimo, put in a clearly separate SVN area,
>> grant restricted commit status (via ACL or explicit direction) to  
>> some
>> number of people who have worked with the code before
>>
>> 3) Bring project X to the incubator, mix outside people and
>> potentially Geronimo people to form a new project team
>>
>>     It's clear that there's a variety of opinions as to which of  
>> these
>> is preferable, and potentially which is most preferable for the web
>> console vs the ORB.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:17:44PM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's a judgement call i guess. i have not been on the calls. If you
>>>> guys feel that it can support its own eco-system. then thats fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know yet, myself.  But certainly one cannot deny there are
>>> more CORBA specs than Web Services specs (for a while anyway); not
>>> exactly the same deal as a web console.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/12/05, David Blevins <david.blevins@visi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 06:58:20PM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just that the piece of code we are talking about in both
>>>>>> cases, seem un-usable w/o geronimo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that really true?  We are talking about a compliant ORB aren't
>>>>> we?
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
>

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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