Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44764 invoked from network); 31 May 2005 02:56:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 May 2005 02:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 53823 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2005 02:56:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 53793 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2005 02:56:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 53779 invoked by uid 99); 31 May 2005 02:56:26 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ss53.shared.server-system.net (HELO ss53.shared.server-system.net) (72.10.34.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:56:25 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-66-108-84-172.nyc.res.rr.com [66.108.84.172]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by ss53.shared.server-system.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j4V2uK230375 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:56:20 -0700 Message-ID: <429BD254.1060401@toolazydogs.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 22:56:20 -0400 From: "Alan D. Cabrera" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Module restructure References: <429745BC.3090109@apache.org> <4297AD78.4020207@toolazydogs.com> <4297AF85.2040500@apache.org> <4297B167.6080005@toolazydogs.com> <950ACDE1-D0BE-45C9-AE30-A9BA19E90238@apache.org> <429885A8.4040904@toolazydogs.com> <42988D65.4090905@apache.org> <9920D4FC-A37B-4075-A149-4F1143E0EB4A@apache.org> <7b3355cb05053013183582437b@mail.gmail.com> <7b3355cb0505301559c716475@mail.gmail.com> <429BA0EF.10302@apache.org> <0F0ADE4C-3592-4B23-B8B9-A4AC5DEAF710@iq80.com> In-Reply-To: <0F0ADE4C-3592-4B23-B8B9-A4AC5DEAF710@iq80.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Dain Sundstrom wrote, On 5/30/2005 10:43 PM: > On May 30, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > >> The problem we have currently is that there is no continuity between >> our releases - the APIs, deployment plans, etc. have all changed >> incompatibly between them. This was fine with milestones; however, >> when we do a production release users need to have confidence that >> things won't break with the next one. > > > Ah we finally get to the root of what you are talking about. I > believe that if we address this issue directly the technical > structure of the svn tree will be obvious. I agree, it makes no sense in talking about the how until we iron out the what. > Said another way, the technical discussion of the svn tree will never > get anywhere without addressing this core issue first. I think that Jeremy's point is one part of the discussion. The other is how do we break up Geronimo so that people can mix and match pieces and still get a stable, functioning, product. Regards, Alan