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From David Blevins <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Geronimo PMC Managed, project-specific Maven Repository
Date Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:59:04 GMT
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 07:40:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >>
> >>Going back to the original issue of an external project not wishing 
> >>to do a release, we want to make it clear that this is something that 
> >>we threw together ad hoc, and not something published by the external 
> >>project.
> >>
> >
> >The upside to having a geronimo committer build the artifact himself 
> >from source is that you have a better oversight in knowing from what 
> >source code a binary was produced.  Perhaps we should tag the file 
> >name with something, so it obvious it's an ad hoc build that an apache 
> >committer through together.
> Yep!
> >
> >>And I'm still not comfortable doing something like that in a real 
> >>geronimo release.
> >>
> >
> >I agree it's not the best solution, but it's something we have to deal 
> >with.  Unless you are willing to hold up on doing geronimo releases 
> >until all it's dependent software does an official release.  And then 
> >this would apply transitively, such that you would have to wait till a 
> >SNAPSHOT dependency of activemq is has been officially released.  etc.
> >
> Well, yah, sorta.  Milestones are less of a problem but "real" versions?
> I don't think that we would be happy with some other project 
> distributing jars called "geronimo-kernel-xxxx.jar" or the like.  Not 
> only could it mean misery and pain in support, but also risk to 
> reputation, and possibility of it containing code that we'd never 
> release.  The last thing we need is to explain to someone that a 
> geronimo jar containing BEA code (or whatever) really isn't a Geronimo 
> jar.
> I certainly feel the pain of the problem.  But if we can do whatever we 
> can to get the other projects to do even 'beta' or 'rcx' releases... 
> Hiram, do you know any influential committers on ActiveMQ? :D

Seems like we are going in circles on this one.  Can we reasonable agree that it isn't practical
to hold up a Geronimo release till every project we have a snapshot depenency on is able to
hand us some sort of official release of their own?


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