Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8837 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2005 16:44:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jan 2005 16:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 74731 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2005 16:43:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 74507 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2005 16:43:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 74368 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jan 2005 16:43:42 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from Unknown (HELO mgd.gluecode.com) (64.14.202.141) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:43:20 -0800 Received: from [192.168.17.103] ([192.168.17.103]) (authenticated bits=0) by mgd.gluecode.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05GghCW017748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:42:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dain Sundstrom Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-454) Support Group Name = Role Name Role Mapping Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:43:21 -0800 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Jan 5, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:dsundstrom@gluecode.com] >> >> On Jan 4, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Alan Cabrera (JIRA) wrote: >> >>> [ >>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-454? >>> page=comments#action_57267 ] >>> >>> Alan Cabrera commented on GERONIMO-454: >>> --------------------------------------- >>> >>> Automapping at the "descriptor" level is a bad idea. This should be >>> done in the deployment tool where the deployer can review the >>> automapping. >> >> Then how do we do it given that our deployment tool is a >> non-interactive command line tool? > > We could enhance the non-interactive command line tool to provide those > features that seem compelling for its typical use cases. > Auto-generating role mappings with no review strikes me as a scary > thing. Isn't this the palace of deployment descriptors? We have this same problem is CMP. May administrators find it scary to auto map a cmp bean to their database, but that is exactly what users demand. Anyway, I think anything you can do with a gui tool we need to support in our batch command line tool. This is also the interface that maven and ant builds will use, so I strongly we really do need to support this without user interaction (and without having to write vendor deployment descriptors). -dain