Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51972 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2004 00:58:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Nov 2004 00:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1244 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2004 00:58:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 1172 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2004 00:58:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 1159 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2004 00:58:50 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [64.14.202.141] (HELO mgd.gluecode.com) (64.14.202.141) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:58:49 -0800 Received: from [192.168.17.117] ([192.168.17.117]) (authenticated bits=0) by mgd.gluecode.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA519DF9023762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:09:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <17EA21D6-2EC2-11D9-8B4D-000A95D41A40@4quarters.com> References: <97552FB8-2EBB-11D9-BC3B-000D93C5B79C@gluecode.com> <6F0E212D-2EBC-11D9-8B4D-000A95D41A40@4quarters.com> <17EA21D6-2EC2-11D9-8B4D-000A95D41A40@4quarters.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Blevins Subject: Re: SVN Branches Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:58:41 -0800 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Motivations, diffusing, back channels.... Can we turn this back into a technical discussion? Somewhere in the ballpark of a simple +/-1 maybe. -David On Nov 4, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2004, at 4:09 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >> On Nov 4, 2004, at 3:51 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> >>> >>> On Nov 4, 2004, at 3:45 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: >>> >>>> It is covered in the subversion book http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ >>>> >>>> Can understand why you would want to branch for security, but I >>>> think you should keep working on your deployment stuff in the main >>>> trunk. >>> >>> If it's easy to fold back in, why not do in a branch? There's >>> clearly a difference of opinion here, one in which both sides feel >>> pretty strongly. Out of respect and courtesy, why not do in a >>> branch if the downside costs of having to bring it back to trunk are >>> so low? >> >> If there are differences they should be aired on this list. I see >> this as a back channel to not have Aaron implement a feature everyone >> liked except Jeremy. > > They are being aired on the list. Doing the code in a branch (which > seems to have no real extra cost) is also as transparent as can be. > With no added work, with everything in public, how is this a "back > channel", and how would this prevent, discourage or otherwise > influence Aaron to not implement anything he wishes? > >> >>> It's rather traditional in some other projects I've been in to >>> demonstrate contrary ideas in a way that guarantees good exposure to >>> the community, with little disruption. >> >> For a stable project that is not under active development, I >> understand, but everything in geronimo is changing quickly. Should I >> have implemented disabled gbeans in another branch? Should Alan >> implement CORBA in a branch? Since this is the first time for >> someone to branch, I suspicious of the motivations. > > You might then suggest what my motivations would be for trying to > diffuse this in a way that everything can be done in the open. > > geir > >> >> -dain >> >> > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 > geir@gluecode.com