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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Date Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:34:28 GMT
Totally agree with Arron's assessment.  The major ongoing problems are 
m1's reactor (multiproject) dependency handling is simply not good 
enough, and other projects change their build.

We also have problems we created, like modules missing dependencies on 
plugins.  None of the people regularly building geronimo notice the 
problem because they have the plugin already installed.  Another 
problem you created, Jeremy, by switching all the specs to snapshots, 
which took about a week to shake out.

Anyway, if you want to be build monkey for a few weeks, go for it.


Dain Sundstrom
Chief Architect
Gluecode Software
310.536.8355, ext. 26

On Oct 18, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

> 	Hear, hear.
> 	I don't think you'll get a fast online build, though, until Mavn
> itself is changed to download no snapshot more than once per build
> sequence (and ideally, not download snapshots that are going to be 
> built
> locally anyway).
> 	Though it's worth noting that the majority of the build breakage
> is from people who aren't messing with the build itself.  For example, 
> the
> ActiveMQ repackaging and the latest EWS snapshot both broke the build. 
>  I
> think we need to try to get everyone to run a "maven m:rebuild-all" 
> before
> they check anything in, though that still won't stop bad dependencies 
> from
> being put on the Maven repos.
> Aaron
> P.S. If anyone wants a copy of yesterday's EWS that does not break the
> build, I can e-mail it to you.  Today's is no good.
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>> To all those who have been making "improvements" to the build over the
>> last month, can we please please get back to a situation where it 
>> works
>> reliably, every time on Windows, Linux and OSX.
>> No magic, no mystical plugin downloads, no arcane sequences to 
>> rebuild,
>> no patches to apply, simply:
>> * Clear instructions on building on a clean machine
>> * Clear instructions on rebuilding a working copy
>> * The ability to build online without taking hours
>> --
>> Jeremy

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