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From Jeremy Boynes <>
Subject Re: Frontend tools
Date Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:44 GMT
Aaron Mulder wrote:
> 	I know the main developer of MC4J, a cool (Swing-based) JMX
> management console -- check out the screen shots and stuff.  (His name is
> Greg Hinkle)  I hope to get Greg on board with Geronimo.  If so, and if
> that project continues to use (what is essentially) the Mozilla Public
> License, would we be able to distribute it as part of Geronimo?  He's got
> modules in there for a number of app servers, and he said he's working on
> more direct JSR-77 support, so it seems like a good fit.
> Aaron

I used MC4J back in Geronimo's early days to debug GBeans and thought it 
was a good front-end to JMX. I would certainly support a module for 
Geronimo and I would assume that can be Apache licensed (i.e. comes with 
Geronimo rather than MC4J).

Since then we have also added support for JSR-160 JMX remoting so 
presumably it can connect using that.

The concern I have is that just exposing every MBean will not lead to a 
user-friendly solution - there is just too much detail. Instead, I think 
we need to define a higher level information model so the console can be 
a little smarter.

For example, rather than messing around with Connector stuff, the user 
should just be able to say "I want to connect to a database" and be lead 
through that process by some sort of wizard.


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