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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Web Services and Portlet deployment
Date Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:11:37 GMT
Sure, but right now I don't care about editing the dds.  What I want to 
know is what is supposed to happen when I say "distribute" with a 
package that has say a web services descriptor in it.  Does the 88 spec 
say anything about what is supposed to happen?  As I understand it such 
a package will have to be distributed either as a web module or an ejb 
module, depending on the other dd in it.

Many thanks,
david jencks

On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:26 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

> 	As far as JSR-88 goes, it includes a facility for multiple
> standard DDs per module -- I think you identify them by name.  So the
> DDBeans would include DDBeans for all the different standard DDs
> (definitely including web services, and likely including portlets as
> well), and then the server module can provide DConfigBeans matching 
> any or
> all DDBeans, and then all the deployment plan ends up including all the
> server-specific information, whether it corresponds to just one 
> standard
> DD or multiple ones (and whether just one module or multiple modules 
> in an
> EAR).
> Aaron
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David Jencks wrote:
>> I've been working a bit with portlets recently and as a result
>> considering how we can handle deployment of packages with auxiliary
>> spec-mandated deployment descriptors using jsr-88.  I find the jsr-88
>> spec somewhat sketchy on this and at least the portlet spec doesn't
>> mention jsr-88.  The current web services deployment code does not
>> appear at first glance to fit well into either jsr-88 deployment or 
>> the
>> geronimo architecture.
>> As I understand, web services and portlets both involve deploying a
>> standard j2ee package (web or ejb) that have an additional deployment
>> descriptor in them (web-service.xml(???) and portlet.xml).
>> Here's what I  think should happen:
>> --jsr-88 client tells geronimo to deploy package, as a standard j2ee
>> package.
>> --geronimo deployer sorts it as a standard package and hands it to the
>> web or ejb deployer
>> --web or ejb deployer recognizes the extra deployment descriptor and
>> hands it to the web services or portlet deployer
>> --specialized deployer constructs specialized ejb or servlet 
>> containers
>> gbeans directly (possibly in cooperation with the normal ejb/web
>> deployers) and adds them to the package configuration (again perhaps 
>> in
>> cooperation with the standard deployers)
>> --the specialized deployer may need to communicate some extra
>> information to some other service.  For example, Jetspeed2 has a
>> portlet registry that needs to be informed of newly deployed portlets.
>> Ideally this information can be communicated by including it in the
>> container gbean (servlet or ejb) and using gbean reference collections
>> to notify a registry gbean.  However, some other approach may be
>> necessary.
>> Since the openejb deployer is already constructing container gbeans 
>> for
>> each ejb, I would not expect that a web service-ejb deployer along
>> these lines to require extensive modifications to the openejb 
>> deployer.
>>   However, our jetty deployer currently relies on jetty to interpret 
>> the
>> web.xml descriptor and deploy servlets.  This has the additional
>> problem that servlets are not represented by gbeans, so they don't fit
>> in the jsr-77 framework.  I think the solution here is to extend the
>> geronimo-jetty deployer to construct gbeans for each servlet directly
>> from the web.xml, and not use the Jetty deployer at all.
>> Comments?
>> many thanks,
>> David Jencks

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