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From "Mark D. Hansen" <>
Subject RE: purpose of Geronimo ?
Date Thu, 13 May 2004 15:39:17 GMT
I did not mean to insult anyone.  Nor to imply that there is any
injustice going on.  I don't know the history, or the committers, or
anything about OpenEJB.  It was just an innocent question about how this
project is going to be different from JBoss.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Blevins []
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:39 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: purpose of Geronimo ?
> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 11:07:23AM -0400, Mark D. Hansen wrote:
> > Why is Apache creating Geromino when JBoss provides an open source
> > J2EE container?  Is it because some developers object to the license
> > that JBoss uses?  Or is it because the Geronimo developers feel they
> > can provide a better J2EE implemenation than JBoss?  Both?  Neither?
> Did you know that five of the committers originated from the 
> OpenEJB project?  This includes both project founders, 
> Richard Monson-Haefel and myself.  Did you know the founders 
> of Jetty are also founding members of this project?  The 
> leader of Mx4j also.  Castor JDO.  The list goes on and on.
> Why should any of us have to justify our existence now, after 
> having played in the open source J2EE world for as long as 
> JBoss?  Why is it that when Apache opens their doors to us 
> and provides a place where we can finally collaborate, people 
> call "foul" as if collaboration is a dirty word in open source?
> Exactly what is the injustice here and exactly when did our 
> years of work suddenly become about JBoss?
> -- 
> David Blevins
> A Founder of Geronimo
> Co-Founder of OpenEJB

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